I am sick of these planes. - Page 2

Onkel Neal · 04-06-07, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sceptre666

It has reached a point where it isn't even fun to shoot them down with the AA gun anymore. During the day time, I am lucky if I have to dive less than 8 times because of planes flying over head. Not only is it not realistic, (The planes just fly to your position, every time. Sometimes a little above or below. ) but it bogs the game down a rediculous amount.

Is anybody else sick of them? The dynamic campaign becomes almost useless since there are so many bloody planes constantly dive bombing me.

Thus is historically correct. If you want, I can find examples in some of the patrol reports I have from the National Archives where subs dove 15 times a day due to air cover.

Skweetis · 04-06-07, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Thus is historically correct. If you want, I can find examples in some of the patrol reports I have from the National Archives where subs dove 15 times a day due to air cover.

Where'd you get your hands on those? I've been looking for genuine patrol reports to use as reference for my Journal project. Can you order them directly from the National Archives, even if you aren't a US Citizen?

Sorry for the hijack, this caught my attention.

Cheers.

tater · 04-06-07, 11:50 PM

Even if the number of air contacts is in the ballpark, the bomb loads are so far from reality it's funny. 3x500kg for a zero that held 2x60kg in theory, but virtually never carried bombs in reality. Zeros should have zero bombs. Vals? 3x500kg in game I think, should be ONE times 250kg. All are wrong.

The 2 types with decent bombloads, the H6K and H8K frequently appear in pairs. Odd, since maritime patrol planes would always be singletons to spread out the search pattern (they are still over bombed).

So fix the bombloads, and at least they won't be like dive bombing B-29s.

tater

Onkel Neal · 04-07-07, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Skweetis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Thus is historically correct. If you want, I can find examples in some of the patrol reports I have from the National Archives where subs dove 15 times a day due to air cover.

Where'd you get your hands on those? I've been looking for genuine patrol reports to use as reference for my Journal project. Can you order them directly from the National Archives, even if you aren't a US Citizen?

Sorry for the hijack, this caught my attention.

Cheers.

All the ones I have, various subvets have sent them to me. They went to the Archives to get copies I think.

Seadogs · 04-07-07, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skweetis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Thus is historically correct. If you want, I can find examples in some of the patrol reports I have from the National Archives where subs dove 15 times a day due to air cover.

Where'd you get your hands on those? I've been looking for genuine patrol reports to use as reference for my Journal project. Can you order them directly from the National Archives, even if you aren't a US Citizen?

Sorry for the hijack, this caught my attention.

Cheers.

All the ones I have, various subvets have sent them to me. They went to the Archives to get copies I think.

Sounds like a great section for the site

. I couldn't get enough of the ones up on Warfish.

Iron Budokan · 04-07-07, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

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Originally Posted by Sceptre666

It has reached a point where it isn't even fun to shoot them down with the AA gun anymore. During the day time, I am lucky if I have to dive less than 8 times because of planes flying over head. Not only is it not realistic, (The planes just fly to your position, every time. Sometimes a little above or below. ) but it bogs the game down a rediculous amount.

Is anybody else sick of them? The dynamic campaign becomes almost useless since there are so many bloody planes constantly dive bombing me.

Thus is historically correct. If you want, I can find examples in some of the patrol reports I have from the National Archives where subs dove 15 times a day due to air cover.

I don't doubt your expertise in these matters. You certainly have more knowledge about this than I do. But was this true for just passing Midway? That's when they start flocking like a swarm of gnats.

And if so, where are they coming from? They always attack from the North. Is there a carrier up there? Has anyone gone looking for it or are these planes spawning out of mid air? I'm just wondering....

Thank you!

nikimcbee · 04-09-07, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sceptre666

It has reached a point where it isn't even fun to shoot them down with the AA gun anymore. During the day time, I am lucky if I have to dive less than 8 times because of planes flying over head. Not only is it not realistic, (The planes just fly to your position, every time. Sometimes a little above or below. ) but it bogs the game down a rediculous amount.

Is anybody else sick of them? The dynamic campaign becomes almost useless since there are so many bloody planes constantly dive bombing me.

Thus is historically correct. If you want, I can find examples in some of the patrol reports I have from the National Archives where subs dove 15 times a day due to air cover.

Really? I didn't know that? I thought the planes were totally out of control in SH4. I've seen more planes in ONE mission of SH4 than ALL of the missions I've played in SH3!

(And That's a lot of missions)

So I don't know what to think at this point.

malkuth74 · 04-06-07, 10:54 PM

You can edit some files to let them down a little.

But your best bet is to Run Surface at night and sumerged during day. During day Run at 2 knots and your batteries will last till nighttime.

Doing this for my 3rd Career, and I have not yet had many plane problems. Only when I get caught surface in day light.

Cakewalk · 04-06-07, 11:12 PM

One can only imagine how real life crews must have handled not seeing the sun for 30+ days.

Radtgaeb · 04-06-07, 11:25 PM

what truly irks me is the fact that I get slowed to 4 compresion EVERY time I get a surface or air contact....oh! did I mention I get them on the same radar? I'm sorry, it skipped my mind.

Why do I pick up surface vessels on my AA radar?

And why can't I manually operate (let alone, turn on) either one? (I've already tried to *click* the little yellow buttion...oh wait, no I didn't BECAUSE IT WAS GREY!...although I distinctly remember installing one at port AND I get those incessant "Contact!" "Contact!" "Contact!" reports.....) UGH!

These patches can't come too soon. Oh wait, yeah they can, I said the same thing about the game, and I got what I wanted, 'cept it has uber-loads of bugs.

Poor buggers on the dev team being hounded by money-grubbing publishers.

PepsiCan · 07-30-07, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Radtgaeb

what truly irks me is the fact that I get slowed to 4 compresion EVERY time I get a surface or air contact....oh! did I mention I get them on the same radar? I'm sorry, it skipped my mind.

Why do I pick up surface vessels on my AA radar?

And why can't I manually operate (let alone, turn on) either one? (I've already tried to *click* the little yellow buttion...oh wait, no I didn't BECAUSE IT WAS GREY!...although I distinctly remember installing one at port AND I get those incessant "Contact!" "Contact!" "Contact!" reports.....) UGH!

These patches can't come too soon. Oh wait, yeah they can, I said the same thing about the game, and I got what I wanted, 'cept it has uber-loads of bugs.

Poor buggers on the dev team being hounded by money-grubbing publishers.

First of all, that radar station they modelled in the conning tower; that's your surface radar. The air radar is not a station at all.

Secondly, the surface radar doesn't become available until mid/end 1942. Until that time, the station can be manned but everything regarding radar is inoperative.

fredbass · 07-30-07, 10:06 AM

Does the level of time compression you are travelling at effect the distance you would detect planes? If so, then lowering TC would certainly help as it did in SH3.

NefariousKoel · 04-06-07, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cakewalk

One can only imagine how real life crews must have handled not seeing the sun for 30+ days.

It's about 90 days in these modern times of ours.

Cakewalk · 04-07-07, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

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Originally Posted by Cakewalk

One can only imagine how real life crews must have handled not seeing the sun for 30+ days.

It's about 90 days in these modern times of ours.

Ouch. I guess being pale is norm for a submariner.

Blood_splat · 04-08-07, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by malkuth74

You can edit some files to let them down a little.

But your best bet is to Run Surface at night and sumerged during day. During day Run at 2 knots and your batteries will last till nighttime.

Doing this for my 3rd Career, and I have not yet had many plane problems. Only when I get caught surface in day light.

Worked ok until I started to get attack by air at night.

04-06-07, 10:54 PM	#8
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	You can edit some files to let them down a little. But your best bet is to Run Surface at night and sumerged during day. During day Run at 2 knots and your batteries will last till nighttime. Doing this for my 3rd Career, and I have not yet had many plane problems. Only when I get caught surface in day light. __________________

04-06-07, 11:12 PM	#9
Cakewalk Engineer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 212 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	One can only imagine how real life crews must have handled not seeing the sun for 30+ days. __________________ Its not a bug... its a feature!

07-30-07, 10:06 AM	#12
fredbass Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Port Richey, Fl, USA Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Does the level of time compression you are travelling at effect the distance you would detect planes? If so, then lowering TC would certainly help as it did in SH3. __________________

04-06-07, 11:50 PM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Even if the number of air contacts is in the ballpark, the bomb loads are so far from reality it's funny. 3x500kg for a zero that held 2x60kg in theory, but virtually never carried bombs in reality. Zeros should have zero bombs. Vals? 3x500kg in game I think, should be ONE times 250kg. All are wrong. The 2 types with decent bombloads, the H6K and H8K frequently appear in pairs. Odd, since maritime patrol planes would always be singletons to spread out the search pattern (they are still over bombed). So fix the bombloads, and at least they won't be like dive bombing B-29s. tater

04-06-07, 11:25 PM	#10
Radtgaeb Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Muncie, IN Posts: 300 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	what truly irks me is the fact that I get slowed to 4 compresion EVERY time I get a surface or air contact....oh! did I mention I get them on the same radar? I'm sorry, it skipped my mind. Why do I pick up surface vessels on my AA radar? And why can't I manually operate (let alone, turn on) either one? (I've already tried to click the little yellow buttion...oh wait, no I didn't BECAUSE IT WAS GREY!...although I distinctly remember installing one at port AND I get those incessant "Contact!" "Contact!" "Contact!" reports.....) UGH! These patches can't come too soon. Oh wait, yeah they can, I said the same thing about the game, and I got what I wanted, 'cept it has uber-loads of bugs. Poor buggers on the dev team being hounded by money-grubbing publishers.