The Kursk Disaster - What is your theory?

[Kapitan_Phillips]

After reading a few threads about the ship, and reading a book on the subject, I'm interested to know what you folks think about the Kursk and what happened.

My theory is, the boat was rushed to sea when it clearly wasnt ready, and substandard ex-soviet torpedoes malfunctioned and exploded in the bow, killing everyone in the first few compartments and sealing others in the aft.



Please dont turn this into a political debate about Communism or crap like that. All I want is your views on what happened.

[STEED]

You would need to scan the wreck inside and out to get any idea on what happen. But I suspect the truth will never see the light of day, that is to say something else may have not come to light yet.

[robbo180265]

I reckon that had a NATO sub or subs been involved,Russia would be only too happy to put the evidence on display, and show the rest of the world how horrible we all are in the west.

For that reason, my vote goes to a torpedo explosion. Apparently The Kursk was trialling a new kind of torpedo, so maybe something went wrong whilst loading. A warhead going off inside(rather than outside) the sub would do a hell of a lot of damage, and maybe lead to a chain re-action in the tubes leading to the sub sinking pretty quickly.

On the other Kursk thead I posted a link to the memorial site, they talk about possible reasons on there. It's quite a good read.

[ASWnut101]

My theory? Here: A 65cm Hydrogen Peroxide powered torpedo malfunctioned in the magazine, blew up, and sunk the boat.

Hit by one British and one US torpedo. Two torps sealed its fate. A message needed to be sent to the Russians.

So far so good. That's my theory.

[bookworm_020]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

My theory? Here: A 65cm Hydrogen Peroxide powered torpedo malfunctioned in the magazine, blew up, and sunk the boat.

That matches my theroy, HP power torpedos have a mixed history. The UK had some bad experiences with them and got rid of them.


That's my two cent's so I'll stop here.

[Enigma]

A little off topic, but I recall seeing a woman overcome by emotion at a hearing about the Kursk, and she stood up and was yelling at the military and goverment officials on the panel, and a lady walks up and injects her with something to knock her out and shut her up. I couldnt believe my eyes!

As for the Kursk, I think a cook off is most likely. I've never seen anything convincing that suggested hostile action.,.....

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

My theory is, the boat was rushed to sea when it clearly wasnt ready, and substandard ex-soviet torpedoes malfunctioned and exploded in the bow, killing everyone in the first few compartments and sealing others in the aft.

Actually, the Kursk had been around for awhile. The problem was w/ the torpedo. The Russians needed the long range capability for their 65cms, so they could not go for a battery design. Don't know why they didn't try for Otto-fuel type monopropellant, but Soviet naval designers are a wierd mix of innovative and conservative.

But honestly I won't put it past the Americans to have done what the conspiracy theorists said (collide and shoot torps to cover their escape, thus INDUCING the accident).

[baggygreen]

well then, where did the damaged US sub go?

It'd have to be repaired somewhere, and isnt pretty much every US naval base able to be seen by civilians - not to mention any aircraft flyovers etc...

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Originally Posted by baggygreen

well then, where did the damaged US sub go?

It'd have to be repaired somewhere, and isnt pretty much every US naval base able to be seen by civilians - not to mention any aircraft flyovers etc...

As I understand it, the US came as clean as possible about the Memphis, but the situation with Toledo is less certain. A submarine is mostly submerged and damage can easily be concealed if it is underwater. If the submarine managed to limp from a collision all the way to back to a port, it is in no immediate danger of sinking. IF there was a collision, my move as the USN would have been to just keep the collided sub mostly submerged until there's a chance to quietly move it into a drydock when interest dies down.

[baggygreen]

Alas, there you go - i've never even heard of any incident with the toledo - which helps to push your point.

it would be nice to know for sure, wouldnt it.

Edit - nice avatar, btw

[CptSimFreak]

Aliens....it's always the aliens.

[cobalt]

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/KURSK/

I doubt any of this is what really happened, but it makes you think for a second.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by cobalt

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/KURSK/

I doubt any of this is what really happened, but it makes you think for a second.

I thought about it for a second and came to the conclusion that a site named "What really happened" is an oxymoron.

The Kirsk was discussed on a thread here about a year or 2 ago. Bring out your dead!

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

The Kirsk was discussed on a thread here about a year or 2 ago. Bring out your dead!

Funny, I say that to myself every time a new Middle East thread appears. Then, I utter the final latin text from the Requiem and hit myself in the head with a board.