SH4: Huge Dissappointment

[Gizzmoe]

And yet another wild rant. Thanks, Wave Skipper...

[John Channing]

OK... Let me see if I have this correct.

You say that if we drive the only company that has even attempted a WWII Subsim in... what... 10-15 years, out of the market then some other company will rush in and start making them?






I think my head just exploded.

JCC

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Wave Skipper

Look at the excuse makers - if they are not Ubi-agents - they are part of the trouble anyway.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Wave Skipper

Ubi fills the market for this sort of thing. If another better group of guys wanted to break into this market they have to go against the SH-series. But if Ubi could be forced out or put out of business, that would open the market for other companies - who might just do a better job. Take your games back to the stores - and even if they will not take them back (though in America some will) then at least complain to the store that the game is a wreck. That you are very unhappy.

Silent Hunter 3 made enough money to justify Silent Hunter 4.....just! If Silent Hunter 4 fails to meet its sales target, then you can forget Ubisoft producing another sub sim any time soon.

As for your notion that there are companies just waiting in the wings to produce sub sims as soon as Ubisoft are out of the picture, you obviously have little or no knowledge of how the video game industry works.

The profit ratio on this type of game is pretty small. Some folks need to wake up and smell the coffee.

[walsh2509]

Originally Posted by John Channing

OK... Let me see if I have this correct.

You say that if we drive the only company that has even attempted a WWII Subsim in... what... 10-15 years, out of the market then some other company will rush in and start making them?






I think my head just exploded.

JCC

I see your point, but the fear of losing the only people that make a SH, should not allow the company to get away with sloppy work.

Yes as said a million times before, all game have bugs on release. But what are the QC at either the game house or UBI doing? In patch 1.1 press A to level the sub and it crashes the game. How could anyone miss that, either QC never told , no I'll stop myself there. There is no way on this earth that the devs didn't know that 1.1 had this major new bug, that is not only sloppy its totally unprofessional work.

As that old saying goes ! At the end of the day, its OUR fault, the game buying public. Game houses and there publishers know that gamers will jump at the chance to play the "next/next-gen/ground breaking" games, and that is why they can get away with at best sloppy work. They have testers QC, they know when they release these game that the games don't just have mirror quick fix flaws or bugs, they know there are major programming problems and even when like patch 1.1 in fixing some, they have create some even worse. They know this even before they release there patches.


As for if we complain to loudly they will "take home ther ball" and we'll not get to play anymore. Bottom line , game houses and publishers don't make games just out of pure love of , in this case WWII uboats and subs, yes the dev's may have a passion a love of WWII uboats and subst they produce, but bottom line if there was no money to be made these games would not see light of day. Publishers would not touch them, SH will continue for a while yet, because there is money to be made.

[Charlie901]

HENCE the question remains:

[John Channing]

Originally Posted by Charlie901

HENCE the question remains:

And the answer is...


"Because the Leopards already took the spots"

or

"A Nun Reading a Newspaper"

or

"I don't know about that, but this one's eating my popcorn"



Feel free to join in everyone.

JCC

[mookiemookie]

"Because that's the way the Romans did it."

"Because the ghost of Gunther Prien compels me."

"One hundred and seventy three schoolkids with ADD, sharpened sticks and a severe dislike for that shirt you're wearing."

and my personal favorite...

"Purple monkey dishwasher."

[seawolf34]

Because of the problems with the game at the present time I just stick to playing the single missions or online play, I'll start a campaign once some of the bugs are fixed. I certainly wouldn't class sh4 as a disappointment though, multiplayer is fun

[Harmor]

Well, I have put the game aside for the time being, because I can't be bothered to keep starting a new career just because the game won't let me reload career savegames due to whatever flaw there is in the game. Since I am not interested in the MP and do not care for the single missions that much either, this absolutely horrendous savegame issue is indeed gamebreaking for me. So up until they fix it, yeah, it is a disappointment for sure since it is more or less unplayable.

[ReM]

Time heals all wounds....

Lighten up peeps!

In a couple of weeks this game is gonna be patched and modded and will resemble the game it was supposed to be....

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Yep, because we heard the same complaints about SH4 a thousand times before. Or did you really think, when you started this thread, that you´d tell us something we didn´t know already?

And we will probably hear the same complaints several more thousand times.

Everyone, no matter how new or ancient to the Radio Room should feel free to express their opinion as often and as eloquently as they may.

Just because "Dissapointment" has been posted numerous times doesn't invalidate another's opine.

I have uninstalled SH4 and am currently having a blast with Dangerous Waters and SH3 GWX so I can happily wait for the Dev team to give us a REFIT and I can sail the waters of the South Pacific looking for ships bearing the Rising Sun in my crosshairs again some day, hopefully sooner rather than later.

SH4 is playable in it's present state, but one has to have a great deal of patience and save the game frequently.

The Mods help, but don't fix what is fundamentally flawed. So, I remain disappointed in the SH4 state of affairs.

[Shipwreck]

Keep your chins up Brothers and Sisters, good times are comin

SW

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Front Runner

And we will probably hear the same complaints several more thousand times.

Everyone, no matter how new or ancient to the Radio Room should feel free to express their opinion as often and as eloquently as they may.

Just because "Dissapointment" has been posted numerous times doesn't invalidate another's opine.

I don't want to see 1,000 separate threads on "dissapointment" anymore than I want to see 1,000 separate threads on any other single topic. No one is discounting anyone's opinion as they can express their opinion as often and eloquently as they want within a thread started for that reason. Just because you think it's profound and unique that you're feeling let down by the game, doesn't mean that it's so profound and unique that it needs yet ANOTHER new thread devoted to it. Post it in "likes and dislikes" or one of the other existing rant threads instead of spamming up the forum with yet another rant on how mad you are.

[darksythe]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I don't want to see 1,000 separate threads on "dissapointment" anymore than I want to see 1,000 separate threads on any other single topic. No one is discounting anyone's opinion as they can express their opinion as often and eloquently as they want within a thread started for that reason. Just because you think it's profound and unique that you're feeling let down by the game, doesn't mean that it's so profound and unique that it needs yet ANOTHER new thread devoted to it. Post it in "likes and dislikes" or one of the other existing rant threads instead of spamming up the forum with yet another rant on how mad you are.

Bravo! at last ladies and gentlemen i think that someone has made the point that the rest of us have been trying to make. Lets see how it works out now.