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Old 03-30-07, 02:01 PM   #1
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Default SH3 w/Grey Wolves vs. SH4??

I played SH3 for a while when it first came out. Buggy, etc. and lost interest.

Recently have lurked on the SH3 boards and became quite interested in the Grey Wolves Mod due to the accolades from the community for realism and extensive mods to the original game.

Have held off until I viewed how SH4 would do the first month into its release.

If graphics and eye candy are not big priorities for me, would I be better served going with SH3 and GW for realism, bug free, challenging experience? Or is SH4 going to be a better sim say another 2 months down the road? Is the dynamic campaign in SH4 a big step forward vs. SH3?

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Old 03-30-07, 02:04 PM   #2
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SHIII + GWX is the way to go at this point. In a few months or a year SHIV will be the better of the two.
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Old 03-30-07, 02:04 PM   #3
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I Recently have lurked on the SH3 boards and became quite interested in the Grey Wolves Mod due to the accolades from the community for realism and extensive mods to the original game.
You need to get GWX 1.03 the Grey Wolves Expansion, do not wait any longer.
A great, great Super-mod

Someone can comment on SH4.
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Old 03-30-07, 02:06 PM   #4
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SH3 with GWX slipped into the program files is an out of body experience.
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Old 03-30-07, 02:39 PM   #5
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If you are looking for an immersive sub sim experience, SH3 with GWX is the way to go... The only other sim (although a flight one) which gave me such an immersion was Janes/EA F-15.

SH4 eventually will be an awesome sim, with the continued support of the dev team and the modders community.
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Old 03-30-07, 02:51 PM   #6
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I agree, SHIII & GWX is the way to go for the time being. I only just started playing with GWX and I can say its a 200% improvement on the stock SHIII, the new sounds (especially the crash dive one! ALLLAARRRRMMM!!!!) are awesome. Overall the immersion is way better than SHIV, the crew seem to be a bit zombie like in it theres no real connection apart from the fact they are there in front of you!
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Old 03-30-07, 03:15 PM   #7
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I agree, SHIII & GWX is the way to go for the time being. I only just started playing with GWX and I can say its a 200% improvement on the stock SHIII, the new sounds (especially the crash dive one! ALLLAARRRRMMM!!!!) are awesome. Overall the immersion is way better than SHIV, the crew seem to be a bit zombie like in it theres no real connection apart from the fact they are there in front of you!



You do realize of coarse, that the ALLLARRRRRRMMMMM!!!! sound effect, as well as the background crew noises are from "Das Boote". A must see film, if you haven't done so already!
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Old 03-30-07, 03:16 PM   #8
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Having played both, and just got into GWX, I have to say there is NO comparison..

Will SH4 be as good? In all reality all everyone does is "hope" but the truth is NO ONE will know for sure..

I hope so, I really do, but at this time stick with GWX until more patches come out
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Old 03-30-07, 03:19 PM   #9
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In terms of being a really-well-tested and improved game, of course SH3+GWX is right now the way to go. But I personally believe that the real choice is more one of theaters than of "games". If you are a fan of Pacific submarine warfare, SH4 is for you....if you prefer the legend and glamour of U-Boots go for Sh3. If you just want to approach the subsims world, any of them will be good for you.
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Old 03-30-07, 04:05 PM   #10
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The only thing in Sh4 "better" compared with sh3 are the enviroment graphics ,like transparent water ,and some gameplay details.

the new theater,the scenario, the boats, the new enemy, not are better, are only different compared with sh3.

sh3 and GWX will stay a lot of time in my hard disk until another game or a big mod are released
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Old 03-30-07, 04:13 PM   #11
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GWX is very good if you like playing the U boat war in 43 - 44, but I have issues with the 'Happy Time' part of it. I think the destroyers and escorts are just a little to effective early in the war. I don't know, it might be fixed by now!
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Old 03-30-07, 04:18 PM   #12
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Sh3 +Gwx +NYGM
And SH1 for Pacific submarine warfare
And maybe in tha future sh4
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Old 03-30-07, 06:59 PM   #13
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SH3 + GWX + Wolves at War Online Clan.


Nothing better.
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Old 03-30-07, 07:02 PM   #14
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Don't you think its a bit unfair to compare a game that has been patched up and have 2 years worth of mods attached to it, to a game that has only been out for a couple weeks?
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Old 03-30-07, 07:04 PM   #15
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Anyone still have issues with savegame corruption in SH3? That's why I stopped playing and I'm loathe to even install it again to try GWX unless it got fixed at some point along the way that I didn't notice. I've asked a lot about this but nobody seems to know. I'd save deep in enemy territory surrounded by many ships, submerged, and that would usually greatly increase the odds that my savegame would be corrupt.
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