Scientologic offensive in Germany

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Ishmael

Hey! If you choose to believe bad 40's pulp science-fiction as the basis of your personal & religious philosophy that's your business. If you choose to squander your money on these bunco artists, that's also your business. It's just a variation of what my Daddy called,"Gettin' to Heaven on the Installment Plan". I find it interesting that the people they seem to target are actors & politicians, two groups not known for their intellectual curiosity or acumen. I have an idea though. Let's only allow Scientology "churches" to be built next door to militant Islamic mosques. Then they can kill each other & leave the rest of us in peace.

They don't kill each other. They tend to cooperate. Their goals are the same: taking over control of economy, education, politics, wiping out different views in philosophy and science, destroying basic values and social orders of our constitutions, and enforce their selfish and self-centred totalitarian views on us.

[bookworm_020]

Not all scientologists are jumping on couch's!!

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...761471748.html

I believe that in Germany they don't consider scientology a religion. Is that correct???

I may want to move ther if that is the case!

[RedMenace]

May I ask, what's the difference, in essence, between scientology and every other religion ever? You look at scientology and hiss, but I don't think scientology is a problem in particular. It's religion in general.

[UglyMowgli]

In Germany to enter in the public service and army you should certify you are not a scientologist.

In France tey are considered as a sect and under heavy surveillance by watching commission.

[joea]

Originally Posted by MSgalileo

In Germany to enter in the public service and army you should certify you are not a scientologist.

In France tey are considered as a sect and under heavy surveillance by watching commission.

Unlike Canada where every nut and his dog can come to set up a cult, like one of your countrymen Rael.

[KevinB]

Scientology brainwashes you. Any cult (or religion) that asks for a percentage of your salary is out of order. I'm not sure the Kabbalists fall into this category but maybe Madonna can answer this. Isn't she leaning towards Scientology as well?

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by KevinB

Scientology brainwashes you. Any cult (or religion) that asks for a percentage of your salary is out of order. I'm not sure the Kabbalists fall into this category but maybe Madonna can answer this.

Kabbalism is a spiritual trend. It is not a religion on its own. It is the mystical part of Judaism.

And the ones who are dishing out all over the place are just out to make a buck. However, I don't see anything wrong with it overall, as it's simply a trendy fad and method taught generically to supposedly deal with the spiritual side of life, regardless of one's religious affiliation.

There is a tremendous amount of contradiction in saying one believes in what is supposedly Kabbalah, while not being Jewish.

I view it as no different than the trend in major corporations nowdays to attend Indian guru and swahmi get-togethers for various management disciplines. Will it help? Could be. Could be not.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by MSgalileo

In Germany to enter in the public service and army you should certify you are not a scientologist.

</p>Really? That is new to me. Scientology at schools is a growin problem here.

[UglyMowgli]

Originally Posted by Skybird

</p>Really? That is new to me. Scientology at schools is a growin problem here.

One of my friend must sign a delcaration saying he was not in contatc with the Scientotlogy when he had to work with the german army as contractor.

Here a text about this, sorry iin french

http://www.prevensectes.com/ac1999.htm#allemagne091

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by RedMenace

May I ask, what's the difference, in essence, between scientology and every other religion ever? You look at scientology and hiss, but I don't think scientology is a problem in particular. It's religion in general.

many governments rightfully so recognize Scientology for the business scam based cult that it is.

Otherwise, in contrast to you, I think the problem is aetheism in general.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

I think the problem is aetheism in general.

I'm not a atheist, but I don't see any problem with atheism.
What do you think is wrong with it?

[elite_hunter_sh3]

seriously after reading these news articles.. someone is getting angry..., but i aint gonna unleash it out on the forums here.. im already on thin ice aftewr my last few escapades, time to go find te scientology church and egg it.


a for the hell of it


permission to to talk really badly about scientology and how they are *************************************??

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Letum

I'm not a atheist, but I don't see any problem with atheism.
What do you think is wrong with it?

Its' not just atheism but that's the ultimate belief which essentially negates the possibility of objectively defining what is good or bad. There are no holds barred. Morals and laws can be created, changed and dismissed at anyone's whim, with the only limitation being what might the fellow next to me do if anything goes.

Law of the jungle. Survival of the fittest. That's what life boils down to.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Its' not just atheism but that's the ultimate belief which essentially negates the possibility of objectively defining what is good or bad.

And religion offers an objective point of view?
This may be aa problem with atheism, but organised religion doesn't solve it.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Its' not just atheism but that's the ultimate belief which essentially negates the possibility of objectively defining what is good or bad. There are no holds barred. Morals and laws can be created, changed and dismissed at anyone's whim, with the only limitation being what might the fellow next to me do if anything goes.

Law of the jungle. Survival of the fittest. That's what life boils down to.

What a bull!

I am atheist, my children are and they are perhaps better in moral as you are.