Sunrise and Sunsets

cncllc · 03-26-07, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderF

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Originally Posted by Mud

Looks ok , even on my ol' 6600

Mud

Yeah, I totally don't get that at all.

My sun looks like the one in this guy's screenshot.

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Originally Posted by cncllc

Yes! Bloom effect, I couldn't remember what it was called in SHIII. I'm running afew mods (ultimate sound, green lamp button mod) but the problem was there from the start. I manually edited the config for V-sync on and have reset all ATI Catalyst settings to their default - application controlled. As far as the .exe, I have a retail version from Gamestop patched to V1.1 .

Are you running ATI or Nvidia?

Seems more like the issue would be the ATI vs nVidia instead of the copy protection, though. I run a pretty 'plain Jane' system. I have Nero installed, but none of the virtual disk stuff it has, and no other imaging or CD copying stuff installed. (I'm also a software tech professionally, so run a VERY clean system - registry always A-OK, always defraged, no viruses or spyware or anything, etc) Never run into a copy protection problem with any game before.

As you seem to have guessed (or found from another post), my system is ATI-based. Radeon X1950 Pro.

I also turned on the v-sync, though - it'd be unusual for that to be related, but...had you seen this BEFORE changing that setting? Otherwise, I'm completely running stock Sh4 + patch, and that's it. No other changes.

Well the extreme blurry effect I experienced seemed to be a driver issue - so after 2 reloads of SH4 and 2 reloads of Cat 7.2 drivers I'm back in business.....But still not bloom effect

It seems we have a reverse situation in SH4 - in SHIII Nvidia users couldn't see the bloom effect but ATI was fine. As far as the V-sync question, I had played for awhile before changing the v-sync setting - so no, for me bloom was never there.

As far as the copy protection, you never really know what issues it can cause. I never would have guessed that missing eyes had anything to do with it until I read the Devs post. I run a pretty lean system as well, outside of Nero there is nothing that I can think of that would cause the protection scheme to question my copy of SH4 at all.

At this point it seems to be ATI specific, but it would be nice to have afew more confirmation of the effect not working or atleast 1 shot of an ATI with the bloom. Guess only time will tell.

OneTinSoldier · 03-26-07, 01:14 PM

For you guys not getting the excellent sunrise/sunsets... do you have 'Enviromental Effects' checked?

Does anyone get the beautiful effects WITHOUT having EE checked?

cncllc · 03-26-07, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

For you guys not getting the excellent sunrise/sunsets... do you have 'Enviromental Effects' checked?

Does anyone get the beautiful effects WITHOUT having EE checked?

Yep, everything is on and set to high. I'm looking throught the configs now to double check.

cncllc · 03-26-07, 01:34 PM

Can someone with an Nvidia check my GFXSettings against theirs:

[Current]
DepthBufferEffects=1
Filters=1
Glare=1
UnderwaterDispMap=1
LightShafts=1
3DShipWakes=1
DetailedWaveRipples=1
UnitNormalMaps=1
ShipCausticsEffects=1
Ship3DDamage=2
CharacterDetail=1
ParticlesDetail=10
TerrainObjectsDensity=10
TerrainObjectsLODSize=10
GammaCorrection=52

Thanks.

Mud · 03-26-07, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cncllc

Can someone with an Nvidia check my GFXSettings against theirs:

[Current]
DepthBufferEffects=1
Filters=1
Glare=1
UnderwaterDispMap=1
LightShafts=1
3DShipWakes=1
DetailedWaveRipples=1
UnitNormalMaps=1
ShipCausticsEffects=1
Ship3DDamage=2
CharacterDetail=1
ParticlesDetail=10
TerrainObjectsDensity=10
TerrainObjectsLODSize=10
GammaCorrection=52

Thanks.

[Current]
DepthBufferEffects=0
Filters=1
Glare=1
UnderwaterDispMap=1
LightShafts=0
3DShipWakes=1
DetailedWaveRipples=1
UnitNormalMaps=1
ShipCausticsEffects=0
Ship3DDamage=2
CharacterDetail=1
ParticlesDetail=10
TerrainObjectsDensity=10
TerrainObjectsLODSize=10
GammaCorrection=53

Mud

Avatar · 03-26-07, 01:44 PM

Thanks man, I'm going to try those and see if I cant get better graphics.

Spaxspore · 03-26-07, 01:57 PM

Here is my settings

anthonye · 03-26-07, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

For you guys not getting the excellent sunrise/sunsets... do you have 'Enviromental Effects' checked?

Does anyone get the beautiful effects WITHOUT having EE checked?

Yes I have "Envirimental effects" checked in options

Cpt-Blaubär · 03-26-07, 06:41 PM

ati 1900xt here, dont have this great sun effect, only a small ball, ati issue i think.

XanderF · 03-26-07, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpt-Blaubär

ati 1900xt here, dont have this great sun effect, only a small ball, ati issue i think.

It's especially irritating, as I'd bought ATI back in this day specifically for its superior support of Sh3 (one of the reasons, obviously there were others)...and here comes Sh4 and ATI is the WRONG choice of the two.

AAAAARRRRGGGH!!!

OneTinSoldier · 03-27-07, 02:39 AM

Yep, I have the same issue.

I thought it might be because I do not have 'Enviromental Effects' checked. But I guess that's not the problem, I guess it's my ATI card. I wonder, is it only a problem with the latest Catalyst drivers? I have Catalyst 7.2's installed and so far everyone has reported that's what their using too, other than 'DaWizeGuy' who is using 7.3 beta. I suppose going back a version or two of Cat's probably wouldn't make any difference.

Current card: X800 XT

Soon: HIS X1950 Pro 512 MB AGP (if my PSU can handle it)

Avatar · 03-26-07, 01:15 PM

I have the 6800 GeForce and my frame drops a little in port but is excellent at sea. But I have to run it on medium settings.

If I use the button where you can see your submarine while submerged, the frame rate drops real bad. This is an annoyance.
I guess I know what my next big purchase will be.

How do you check the actual frame rate?

Avatar · 03-26-07, 01:16 PM

The one above your post. No, I dont have that. I dont run with environmental effects on, cuz I have the GeForce 6800.
I may try it at sunset and see if this happens.

DaWizeGuy · 03-26-07, 04:18 PM

No sun glare here either. X1900XTX, Catalyst 7.3 beta.

I'm also pissed Overdrive doesn't work with this game since performance isn't what it should be. I've tried to attract ATI's attention to this issue over at Rage3D, but the Mod keeps telling me there's nothing to do about it.

Kapt'n Nick · 03-27-07, 02:46 AM

I would suggest that some of us having this problem should also post in the official 1.1
bug thread here on subsim and if possible also at the official UBI forums 1.1 bug thread to make this bug noticed...

I've done so....

Now let's hope for a fix....

Greetz....

03-26-07, 01:14 PM	#2
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	For you guys not getting the excellent sunrise/sunsets... do you have 'Enviromental Effects' checked? Does anyone get the beautiful effects WITHOUT having EE checked? __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-26-07, 01:57 PM	#7
Spaxspore Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 399 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Here is my settings __________________ Behold, the Glory of the Sh4 engine..... Morning strole off Tokyo Bay...

03-27-07, 02:39 AM	#11
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Yep, I have the same issue. I thought it might be because I do not have 'Enviromental Effects' checked. But I guess that's not the problem, I guess it's my ATI card. I wonder, is it only a problem with the latest Catalyst drivers? I have Catalyst 7.2's installed and so far everyone has reported that's what their using too, other than 'DaWizeGuy' who is using 7.3 beta. I suppose going back a version or two of Cat's probably wouldn't make any difference. Current card: X800 XT Soon: HIS X1950 Pro 512 MB AGP (if my PSU can handle it) __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-26-07, 01:34 PM	#4
cncllc Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Can someone with an Nvidia check my GFXSettings against theirs: [Current] DepthBufferEffects=1 Filters=1 Glare=1 UnderwaterDispMap=1 LightShafts=1 3DShipWakes=1 DetailedWaveRipples=1 UnitNormalMaps=1 ShipCausticsEffects=1 Ship3DDamage=2 CharacterDetail=1 ParticlesDetail=10 TerrainObjectsDensity=10 TerrainObjectsLODSize=10 GammaCorrection=52 Thanks.

03-26-07, 01:44 PM	#6
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Thanks man, I'm going to try those and see if I cant get better graphics.

03-26-07, 06:41 PM	#9
Cpt-Blaubär Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 12 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	ati 1900xt here, dont have this great sun effect, only a small ball, ati issue i think.

03-26-07, 01:15 PM	#12
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I have the 6800 GeForce and my frame drops a little in port but is excellent at sea. But I have to run it on medium settings. If I use the button where you can see your submarine while submerged, the frame rate drops real bad. This is an annoyance. I guess I know what my next big purchase will be. How do you check the actual frame rate?

03-26-07, 01:16 PM	#13
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The one above your post. No, I dont have that. I dont run with environmental effects on, cuz I have the GeForce 6800. I may try it at sunset and see if this happens.

03-26-07, 04:18 PM	#14
DaWizeGuy Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 14 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No sun glare here either. X1900XTX, Catalyst 7.3 beta. I'm also pissed Overdrive doesn't work with this game since performance isn't what it should be. I've tried to attract ATI's attention to this issue over at Rage3D, but the Mod keeps telling me there's nothing to do about it.

03-27-07, 02:46 AM	#15
Kapt'n Nick Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would suggest that some of us having this problem should also post in the official 1.1 bug thread here on subsim and if possible also at the official UBI forums 1.1 bug thread to make this bug noticed... I've done so.... Now let's hope for a fix.... Greetz....