Is SH4 merely a rehash of SH3?

Rykaird · 03-25-07, 07:33 PM

So I've been fairly critical of SHIV and in particular the almost total removal of interaction with the equipment and crew, forcing complete reliance on the interface.

I have a high end system so I can run everything maxed, and in SHIV's defence I must say that this thing is beautiful. The ocean is just fantastic looking, and the various light effects are stunning. For example, the way the fire from a sinking ship plays off the waves at night is magic.

Despite its beauty, I've parked the game and gone back to the Atlantic. I just have too many crashes and weird bugs, and the frustration isn't worth it. Once its stable I'll come back.

This game may turn out to be great - I think its too early to call right now. In the meantime, Fat Boy Winston and I have some unfinished business.

P_Funk · 03-25-07, 07:58 PM

You can't take my remarks here terribly serious since I haven't played SH4 yet (and won't be til I get a better system) but it looks to me as if SH4 hasn't added anything to the game engine, graphics aside, that couldn't have been done by a dedicated modding team with an SH3 SDK.

Most of the things that sound really refreshing were mod ideas from the early days of SH3 before we figured out that we couldn't change the hard code. Automated crew management, more intersting dynamic campaign, etc. So far the non-Pacific related changes seem as though they are lost patches for SH3. Then theres the fact that theres alot of stock SH3 features actually missing.

Its all a bit weird and confusing.

Beery · 03-25-07, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rykaird

So I've been fairly critical of SHIV and in particular the almost total removal of interaction with the equipment and crew, forcing complete reliance on the interface...

When playing during the last 24 hours I missed being able to interact purely via the mouse in 3D. I was hoping that I just hadn't found the way to do it yet. If we have to interact purely via interface buttons I'm going to be really disappointed.

Iron Budokan · 03-25-07, 08:43 PM

Sad to say, Beery, you're gonna be disappointed. (I was, too.) You can't interact via the 3d like you could in the control room in SH3. You gotta use the icons in SH4....

03-25-07, 08:52 PM

Gentlemen! Give us time!!!
I to hate alot of things, but keep digging to
correct what needs corrected.
We will fix this beast!!!
And if the GWX team comes at it?

God help us all!
We'll all be divorced, shunned,
and locked away in some sleazy motel Hell!
Playing our game a muttering
"I just need a few more fathoms Scotty!!!"
:rotfl: :rotfl:

03-25-07, 07:58 PM	#2
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	You can't take my remarks here terribly serious since I haven't played SH4 yet (and won't be til I get a better system) but it looks to me as if SH4 hasn't added anything to the game engine, graphics aside, that couldn't have been done by a dedicated modding team with an SH3 SDK. Most of the things that sound really refreshing were mod ideas from the early days of SH3 before we figured out that we couldn't change the hard code. Automated crew management, more intersting dynamic campaign, etc. So far the non-Pacific related changes seem as though they are lost patches for SH3. Then theres the fact that theres alot of stock SH3 features actually missing. Its all a bit weird and confusing. __________________

03-25-07, 08:43 PM	#4
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Sad to say, Beery, you're gonna be disappointed. (I was, too.) You can't interact via the 3d like you could in the control room in SH3. You gotta use the icons in SH4.... __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

03-25-07, 07:33 PM	#1
Rykaird Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 356 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	So I've been fairly critical of SHIV and in particular the almost total removal of interaction with the equipment and crew, forcing complete reliance on the interface. I have a high end system so I can run everything maxed, and in SHIV's defence I must say that this thing is beautiful. The ocean is just fantastic looking, and the various light effects are stunning. For example, the way the fire from a sinking ship plays off the waves at night is magic. Despite its beauty, I've parked the game and gone back to the Atlantic. I just have too many crashes and weird bugs, and the frustration isn't worth it. Once its stable I'll come back. This game may turn out to be great - I think its too early to call right now. In the meantime, Fat Boy Winston and I have some unfinished business.

03-25-07, 08:52 PM	#5
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Gentlemen! Give us time!!! I to hate alot of things, but keep digging to correct what needs corrected. We will fix this beast!!! And if the GWX team comes at it? God help us all! We'll all be divorced, shunned, and locked away in some sleazy motel Hell! Playing our game a muttering "I just need a few more fathoms Scotty!!!" :rotfl: :rotfl: