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Old 03-22-07, 07:54 PM   #16
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wait until april.

the 8600GTS will be hitting the shelves, with full dx10 support. yet slower then the 320mb 8800GTS.

i recommned getting the 320mb, or the 640mb GTS if you can afford one

the GTX is to expensive
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Old 03-22-07, 07:56 PM   #17
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wait until april.

the 8600GTS will be hitting the shelves, with full dx10 support. yet slower then the 320mb 8800GTS.

i recommned getting the 320mb, or the 640mb GTS if you can afford one

the GTX is to expensive
he has to have AGP..those are gunna be PCI express cards
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Old 03-22-07, 08:05 PM   #18
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What do they know, they are not PC technians like I am. It also depends upon syst RAM and CPU. The choice is yours.
umm just being curious..but how do you know that none of us are computer tech's or have built systems for well over 10-15 years?
CoolHand, all I am saying is that one, I know how computers work inside and out.

I assume nothing and no offence to anyone. I am highly qualified to make suggestions on what to get. Now I must confess as of yet, I know nothing about PCI-x, until I upgrade again. I most humbly apologize to you.
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Old 03-22-07, 08:15 PM   #19
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I most humbly apologize to you.
no need to apologize mate..

sound's like it was just worded wrong.. ..i've done that as well..i kinda reacted a bit much..
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Old 03-22-07, 09:10 PM   #20
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I should be getting a 7600GS 512 AGP card today, if you wait till later to order, I will post how it runs...

My suplier doesnt even have an 7800 card lol...

MY system is a p4 2.8gig, 800fsb mobo
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Old 03-22-07, 10:12 PM   #21
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wait until april.

the 8600GTS will be hitting the shelves, with full dx10 support. yet slower then the 320mb 8800GTS.

i recommned getting the 320mb, or the 640mb GTS if you can afford one

the GTX is to expensive
he has to have AGP..those are gunna be PCI express cards
There is some rumors going around the Nvidia is going to release a 8xxx series card in AGP.

Even if you can't affort it, it will drive the price of the other cards down a little.
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Old 03-23-07, 04:57 AM   #22
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Well it doesnt look like I will be able to let you know how the 7600GS card works this weekend...

I installed the new card and it no longer runs the game at all...the intro video doesnt even play it just gets a black screen, an active movie window in the background seems to be there, and eventually it says cant initilize 3d...

This is on Sh4 and Sh3...so it looks like I may have gotten a dodgy graphics card.

Im using the latest drivers from Nvidia, and the ones on the cd dont work either.

putting my old card 5700 back in there and the intro and game runs but its too slow to play the game itself.

If anyone knows of other settings or software that is needed to make it work, please post it as the OP may need the info aswell when he gets his card.
(it might be related to it being an older machine or somthing)

IM agp 8x capable...and seem to meet all the requirements.
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Old 03-23-07, 05:05 AM   #23
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also windows media player doesnt seem to be working at all, I will reinstall that stuff and the game to see if that helps

Sorry for the double post, the edit button is prompting to delete the message only. :/
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Old 03-23-07, 06:00 AM   #24
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OK, I fudged it by deleting the intro videos, now it works and I can play...

7800gs 512, p4 2.8ht 800fsb, 2 gig of ram

Its interesting the sliders and most of the graphics options have very little effect on the framerate, low settings, high settings, the sliders its all the same...except the enviro effects which cause a 5fps drop or so.

leaving pearl, I get about 15fps on the bridge, its faster in the sub. adjusting settings made no difference.
Im guessing im cpu bound...

In the open ocean i get about 18-22 and it feels quite playable for me, In not a fps junkie. Im happy with the card. American TV is 24 fps...so its resonable.

Ram wize I checked the PEAK useage... it was about 1.4gb, so you want at least 1.5gb ram..preferably 2gb...at one gig you will get some paging which will slow things down a little due to hdd access...

I will reinstall windows tomorrow to see if I can fix the media player errors and then I should be good to go.

Oh an Im running a 450w psu and its all good so far...
Im only running 1024x768 70hz...I might try some higher rez options later and will edit this post. Sometimes I have found performance increasdes by running a higher rez with some games, I know that sounds wierd...I doubt this will be the case with SH4 tho.
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