[REQ] 6 torpedoes for 1 medium merchant ship? Any way to fix this?

nx02nx02 · 03-21-07, 07:21 AM

I was wondering if there is any way to edit the game so that it doesn't take so many torpedoes to sink a ship. It takes me 5 or 6 direct impact good hits to sink a small ship I cant imagine what the bigger ones will take.

My sub really doesn't even hold enough torpedoes to really do much. Then you have misses and duds.

I would like to edit the game so 1 torpedo will sink any small ship. Is that possible?

Onkel Neal · 03-21-07, 07:23 AM

When you are playing, do you have dud torpedoes option turned on?

nx02nx02 · 03-21-07, 09:14 AM

1941. I did have dud torpedoes but they did detonate. I think it's just the medium merchant ships that are so hard to take down.

I did sink a battleship with 2 hits so The best thing is probably to avoid the medium merchant ships.

Reyern · 03-21-07, 09:18 AM

Mediums? I heard the japs used them only for cork transports to their Sake distilleries.

Gildor · 03-21-07, 09:19 AM

Maybe you just need to be paitent and let the ship flood and sink. Not all ships go boom and sink right away. Give it time.

nx02nx02 · 03-21-07, 10:16 AM

Nah its not that. I waited hours for it to sink. I think what it is is just the medium merchant ships are very hard to sink. Some ships seem to sink with one or two torpedoes but the medium merchants are very tough.

Alot of times in a convoy they are the most tonnage targets that's why I was targeting them but I am going to rethink which ships to sink.
I probably will just leave those ones alone. It's just the medium merchants.

Sailor Steve · 03-21-07, 10:54 AM

That's interesting, because in SH3 the C-2 (medium) merchants were also much harder to put down than even the big (C-3) cargoes.

CCIP · 03-21-07, 10:56 AM

I had no problem putting these guys down. I think this might be an exception, in which case it's probably fine to have a case like that every once in a while (maybe he carried cork! :p )

walsh2509 · 03-21-07, 12:42 PM

Sub school, I used free camera to look at the damage my torps did as they it, massive holes are ripped out of ships.

I fired 3 into a Large Modern Composite Freighter ALL hits no duds, unless dud also fling up water plumes. 1 hits midships and the other 2 aft of the 1st, slow sinking no!

The other in the convoy same type as above 2 torps "hits" into midship and aft of 1st hit, it sailed on. I got 800 meters behind her and my bow to her stern, my 0 on her 180 I hit her with another torp and up went the water plume as the torp exploded in her stern.

She started to turn, I thought I've either took her props out or damaged her rudders, after 10mins of turns she is back on course. I line up the same shot again and like the 1stern shot I hit her again, again she turns , fire and smoke on the deck above her stern. After about 10min of turns she is back on course with the rest of the convoy , smoke and flames. On she and the other I hit, sailed into the distance as the convoy disappeared from view.

Now if its slow sinking, then as time went by the sinking icons would have come up on my Nav map, they didn't. Unless you have to see ships go down to get the kill??

All my torps exploded and flung up water plumes as they hit these ships, there is something wrong when 3 torp in the side of a ship does even seem to slow them down.

If as you say they are sinking but its very slow, then why when they sink "out of my sight" I don't see the sinking markers on the map and don't get the kill?

OneTinSoldier · 03-21-07, 01:04 PM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have to be within visual range to get credit. For instance, in SH3 this meant being within 7.5-8.0 km or so, just under the 8 km view distance.

Iron Budokan · 03-21-07, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reyern

Mediums? I heard the japs used them only for cork transports to their Sake distilleries.

And if I remember correctly they were also historically used to transport ping pong balls and balsa wood tables to the Japanese troops.

Morts · 03-21-07, 01:57 PM

hmmm...will the ships actually sink from flodding or will you have to keep pumping torps into them untill they sink from loss of "HP"?:hmm:

cmdrk · 03-21-07, 02:03 PM

I haven't stepped off the dock yet. My sub is still on the ways.

Question - where the water plumes as high as a normal torpedo detonation?

Just wonder because sub skippers could see the topedo hit with a fair size spout of water, being the air flask exploded. That would be extreme detail to simulate duds.

navec · 03-21-07, 03:09 PM

I have also noticed that it is taking a ridiculously large amount of torps to sink most merchant ships (in comparison to sh3). I turned off duds so I could test out the game. Convoys seemed pretty easy to find, but I end up using all my torps just to sink 4-5 ships.(I had to finish some of those off with the deck gun) This happened on all 3 partrols that I have done so far. It's not just that they are slow to sink, they are not sinking at all, even with a hole the size of a truck in their side.

Sailor Steve · 03-21-07, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrk

I haven't stepped off the dock yet. My sub is still on the ways.

Question - where the water plumes as high as a normal torpedo detonation?

Just wonder because sub skippers could see the topedo hit with a fair size spout of water, being the air flask exploded. That would be extreme detail to simulate duds.

From what I've read there was a water plume with duds, but smaller. As for extreme detail, SH1 had that feature eleven years ago.

03-21-07, 07:21 AM	#1
nx02nx02 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	[REQ] 6 torpedoes for 1 medium merchant ship? Any way to fix this? I was wondering if there is any way to edit the game so that it doesn't take so many torpedoes to sink a ship. It takes me 5 or 6 direct impact good hits to sink a small ship I cant imagine what the bigger ones will take. My sub really doesn't even hold enough torpedoes to really do much. Then you have misses and duds. I would like to edit the game so 1 torpedo will sink any small ship. Is that possible?

03-21-07, 07:23 AM	#2
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	When you are playing, do you have dud torpedoes option turned on? __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

03-21-07, 09:19 AM	#5
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe you just need to be paitent and let the ship flood and sink. Not all ships go boom and sink right away. Give it time. __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal

03-21-07, 10:54 AM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	That's interesting, because in SH3 the C-2 (medium) merchants were also much harder to put down than even the big (C-3) cargoes. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-21-07, 10:56 AM	#8
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I had no problem putting these guys down. I think this might be an exception, in which case it's probably fine to have a case like that every once in a while (maybe he carried cork! :p ) __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-21-07, 09:14 AM	#3
nx02nx02 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	1941. I did have dud torpedoes but they did detonate. I think it's just the medium merchant ships that are so hard to take down. I did sink a battleship with 2 hits so The best thing is probably to avoid the medium merchant ships.

03-21-07, 09:18 AM	#4
Reyern Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 10 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Mediums? I heard the japs used them only for cork transports to their Sake distilleries.

03-21-07, 10:16 AM	#6
nx02nx02 Seaman Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Nah its not that. I waited hours for it to sink. I think what it is is just the medium merchant ships are very hard to sink. Some ships seem to sink with one or two torpedoes but the medium merchants are very tough. Alot of times in a convoy they are the most tonnage targets that's why I was targeting them but I am going to rethink which ships to sink. I probably will just leave those ones alone. It's just the medium merchants.

03-21-07, 12:42 PM	#9
walsh2509 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 410 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Sub school, I used free camera to look at the damage my torps did as they it, massive holes are ripped out of ships. I fired 3 into a Large Modern Composite Freighter ALL hits no duds, unless dud also fling up water plumes. 1 hits midships and the other 2 aft of the 1st, slow sinking no! The other in the convoy same type as above 2 torps "hits" into midship and aft of 1st hit, it sailed on. I got 800 meters behind her and my bow to her stern, my 0 on her 180 I hit her with another torp and up went the water plume as the torp exploded in her stern. She started to turn, I thought I've either took her props out or damaged her rudders, after 10mins of turns she is back on course. I line up the same shot again and like the 1stern shot I hit her again, again she turns , fire and smoke on the deck above her stern. After about 10min of turns she is back on course with the rest of the convoy , smoke and flames. On she and the other I hit, sailed into the distance as the convoy disappeared from view. Now if its slow sinking, then as time went by the sinking icons would have come up on my Nav map, they didn't. Unless you have to see ships go down to get the kill?? All my torps exploded and flung up water plumes as they hit these ships, there is something wrong when 3 torp in the side of a ship does even seem to slow them down. If as you say they are sinking but its very slow, then why when they sink "out of my sight" I don't see the sinking markers on the map and don't get the kill?

03-21-07, 01:04 PM	#10
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have to be within visual range to get credit. For instance, in SH3 this meant being within 7.5-8.0 km or so, just under the 8 km view distance. __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-21-07, 01:57 PM	#12
Morts Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,395 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	hmmm...will the ships actually sink from flodding or will you have to keep pumping torps into them untill they sink from loss of "HP"?:hmm:

03-21-07, 02:03 PM	#13
cmdrk Planesman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 184 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I haven't stepped off the dock yet. My sub is still on the ways. Question - where the water plumes as high as a normal torpedo detonation? Just wonder because sub skippers could see the topedo hit with a fair size spout of water, being the air flask exploded. That would be extreme detail to simulate duds.

03-21-07, 03:09 PM	#14
navec Nub Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have also noticed that it is taking a ridiculously large amount of torps to sink most merchant ships (in comparison to sh3). I turned off duds so I could test out the game. Convoys seemed pretty easy to find, but I end up using all my torps just to sink 4-5 ships.(I had to finish some of those off with the deck gun) This happened on all 3 partrols that I have done so far. It's not just that they are slow to sink, they are not sinking at all, even with a hole the size of a truck in their side.