Who has cancelled their order!

Spaxspore · 03-20-07, 10:28 PM

nope, no game is perfect, thats what patchs and mods r for

cappy70 · 03-20-07, 10:45 PM

I cancelled my order from Amazon,,not to bug issues though,,( hey,,big time beta tester here

),,no I cancelled due to ridicoulse "pushed" forward delivery dates,,estimated new delivery date: 7 - 14 April....

I have a Walmart Supercenter around the corner here and a Best Buy close...

OneTinSoldier · 03-20-07, 11:05 PM

Nope. No game is perfect. But when it come to using deceptive practices, high resolutions upscaled from a low 1024x768 resolution(a first in the game industry), and then making it clear that they know they are deliverying the game in an unfinished state(promised units would be in the imperial system and metric 'might' be offered as an option) is where I draw the line.

I'm only listing the main reasons as to why I'm not giving them my money. If you want to see the myraid of bugs/problems with the game then please go through the other posts in the forum. I'm not going to make a big lengthy list here, someone else can if they want to.

To me they are making it very clear they want our money for an unfinished game. I don't like being lied to and I will not hand over my money to the Decepticons.

I had pre-ordered my copy from the Subsim link to Amazon but I canceled it once I learned that the higher resolutions that are advertised are only 'upscaled' from 1024x768... a first in the industry that says to me, "let's see what we can get away with".

Regards

OneTinSoldier · 03-20-07, 11:20 PM

I want to add something... some folks might be wondering why somone like me would still be hanging around here. It's because I still hold out hope. For how long, I don't know.

But my hope is that Ubi will actually come out and say something! And of course I'm hoping that they will say that they will fix the resolutions to actually be what's advertised, instead of just upscaled. And that they promise to finish the game.

But alas:

They avoided the question about whether the game supported Anti-Aliasing prior to release. It's really a pretty simple question to answer. They could have shown some guts by answering it. But nope. And they certainly could have said something about the two issues I listed above by now. But no, they are in hiding, hoping that as many people will hand over their money before they explain that they will not be fixing these issues.

Decepticons I tell you. Where is Optimus Prime when we need him?

flintlock · 03-20-07, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

I canceled it once I learned that the higher resolutions that are advertised are only 'upscaled' from 1024x768... a first in the industry that says to me, "let's see what we can get away with".

I can certainly appreciate your frustration on this point. I still don't have the game, so I'll judge this for myself once I can test it. Though from what I've read, this has got to be, by far, the single largest gripe many people have with SH4 thus far. With any luck, hopefully this may get sorted out in time.

I remain hopeful that there is some bug or other underlying issue at work here.

Spaxspore · 03-20-07, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

Nope. No game is perfect. But when it come to using deceptive practices, high resolutions upscaled from a low 1024x768 resolution(a first in the game industry), and then making it clear that they know they are deliverying the game in an unfinished state(promised units would be in the imperial system and metric 'might' be offered as an option) is where I draw the line.

I'm only listing the main reasons as to why I'm not giving them my money. If you want to see the myraid of bugs/problems with the game then please go through the other posts in the forum. I'm not going to make a big lengthy list here, someone else can if they want to.

To me they are making it very clear they want our money for an unfinished game. I don't like being lied to and I will not hand over my money to the Decepticons.

I had pre-ordered my copy from the Subsim link to Amazon but I canceled it once I learned that the higher resolutions that are advertised are only 'upscaled' from 1024x768... a first in the industry that says to me, "let's see what we can get away with".

Regards

Still looks pretty damn good for upscaled graphics...

pic still dont give it justice, my bro was watchin me play, in that scene and he said it looked like a painting.

flintlock · 03-20-07, 11:24 PM

Upscaled or otherwise, I'll concede that is a nice image.

stabiz · 03-20-07, 11:24 PM

The sea does, but the sub doesnt.

d@rk51d3 · 03-21-07, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stabiz

The sea does, but the sub doesnt.

Ditto. Been watching a couple of in game vids, and it looks like all the effort went into the water effects. Everything else looks nice, as long as youre not focusing on it. Still, I'll probably end up rushing out and buying it. Either that or STALKER.:hmm:

cappy70 · 03-21-07, 12:36 AM

Nice video Neal,,teased me even more.....

I say again,I've been into sooo many debates about videocards and tech. stats of AA, resolutions, drivers, and final stats of games.
I played SH3 to "death" and it is still on my HD and patch/GWX it gave new breath into the game and it became like a "reborn" game, again although, I don't remember that many disasters with the original not-patched SH3,,yes,granted there were some annoying bugs that need to be fixed, but hey, where are we today with SH3?

Now I'll take this to the tech.level: When it comes to graphic cards one can see these similar "game-software-debates" hit "videocard-hardware-debates": TO MUCH JAGGIES with my videocard; This videocard is a disaster and soooo on.

My point is: All of us in here with so many different PC configs. can for sure produce as many different effects/bugs/none-wanted-effects in a game as we can ask for and blame the game to some extent, but how our computer look like inside/config is another thing, housekeeping, etc,etc,.

Like the other day: I had a USB port in front of my computer that was faulty and it produced stuttering in games when it installed my new keyboard.
Clean out the closed CAB files and you'll see what magic that does,,,,use a program called "Ace Utility". FreeRegistryFix I can also recommend.

Basic game problems is one thing that shows up over and over again from different configs.
I.e. r e a l BUGS.....................

Der Kolkrabe · 03-21-07, 01:24 AM

I'm waiting my SHIV and don't cancelled it.

There been always games, that when published they have bugs...

RDDR · 03-21-07, 08:58 AM

I was going to offer my two cents on some of the comments on this thread this early AM, but as I'm just a newbie on this forum...... who has pre ordered, and who has seen this kind of behavior more than once with the release of a new Sim,So....I'm just going to pour another cup of this fine grind ,paste a

, clean up , throw my guitars in the back of my Wrangler and head up the coast to the studio.. (MY JOB) ,and put all this right out of my head until my copy shows up on my desk in a few days.

All this negativity almost tripped me up a few minutes ago when I started to read these threads, but I'm OK now and fully awake and choosing a much better reality for "Myself"

today
Some of you guys just have to lighten up on yourselves.Dont forget we only get to do all this once.

.

codmander · 03-21-07, 12:42 PM

lol with sh4 getting bashed like this i may get it sooner for 10$

-Pv- · 03-21-07, 01:04 PM

I too have cancelled my order since Amazon today decided to push back delivery to the 1st of April (no doubt they will push it again due to lack of attention to demand/delivery.)

Looking for a local retailer now.
-Pv-

OneTinSoldier · 03-20-07, 11:43 PM

Nice pic. But I can see that I would be facing shimmering and jaggies, which to me, personally, I'm not speaking for anyone but myself... I find unacceptable in a sim made in the year 2007.

Now, if the game actually delivered a 3D rendering at 1600x1200 on my system, and not upscaled from 1024x768, then it would help towards reducing the shimmering/jaggies, which are especially pronounced with distant objects. Although an actual, real, higher res wouldn't totally alleviate the jaggies and shimmering it would help and I would be willing to purchase the game, if it were real!

But I have been convinced it's not and that the advertised higher resolutions are faked by being upscaled from 1024x768 by the evidence and testimony that's been presented on the forum here. To me, upscaling from 1024x768 is a practice in deception, a lie, a cheat. I for one am taking a stand against this and Voting 'NO' by voicing my protest here on the forum and with my wallet.

If evidence and testimony comes forth showing that the higher resolutions are in fact 'real' and not just upscaled, then I apologize. If that happens and if they promise to finish the game, then I will likely purchase it.

03-20-07, 10:28 PM	#1
Spaxspore Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 399 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	nope, no game is perfect, thats what patchs and mods r for __________________ Behold, the Glory of the Sh4 engine..... Morning strole off Tokyo Bay...

03-20-07, 10:45 PM	#2
cappy70 Ensign Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA/Florida/Sweden Posts: 234 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I cancelled my order from Amazon,,not to bug issues though,,( hey,,big time beta tester here ),,no I cancelled due to ridicoulse "pushed" forward delivery dates,,estimated new delivery date: 7 - 14 April.... I have a Walmart Supercenter around the corner here and a Best Buy close... __________________ Specs Windows 10 64 bit Pro Asus Z - 97A Intel I7-4790K 4 Ghz 16 Gig Trident Claw DDR 3 2 x 760 GTX 2048 mem in SLI. WD 1T Hd Ultra/WD Black 640 Corsair 850W PSU

03-20-07, 11:05 PM	#3
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Nope. No game is perfect. But when it come to using deceptive practices, high resolutions upscaled from a low 1024x768 resolution(a first in the game industry), and then making it clear that they know they are deliverying the game in an unfinished state(promised units would be in the imperial system and metric 'might' be offered as an option) is where I draw the line. I'm only listing the main reasons as to why I'm not giving them my money. If you want to see the myraid of bugs/problems with the game then please go through the other posts in the forum. I'm not going to make a big lengthy list here, someone else can if they want to. To me they are making it very clear they want our money for an unfinished game. I don't like being lied to and I will not hand over my money to the Decepticons. I had pre-ordered my copy from the Subsim link to Amazon but I canceled it once I learned that the higher resolutions that are advertised are only 'upscaled' from 1024x768... a first in the industry that says to me, "let's see what we can get away with". Regards __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-20-07, 11:20 PM	#4
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	I want to add something... some folks might be wondering why somone like me would still be hanging around here. It's because I still hold out hope. For how long, I don't know. But my hope is that Ubi will actually come out and say something! And of course I'm hoping that they will say that they will fix the resolutions to actually be what's advertised, instead of just upscaled. And that they promise to finish the game. But alas: They avoided the question about whether the game supported Anti-Aliasing prior to release. It's really a pretty simple question to answer. They could have shown some guts by answering it. But nope. And they certainly could have said something about the two issues I listed above by now. But no, they are in hiding, hoping that as many people will hand over their money before they explain that they will not be fixing these issues. Decepticons I tell you. Where is Optimus Prime when we need him? __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-20-07, 11:24 PM	#8
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	The sea does, but the sub doesnt. __________________

03-20-07, 11:24 PM	#7
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Upscaled or otherwise, I'll concede that is a nice image.

03-21-07, 12:36 AM	#10
cappy70 Ensign Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA/Florida/Sweden Posts: 234 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Nice video Neal,,teased me even more..... I say again,I've been into sooo many debates about videocards and tech. stats of AA, resolutions, drivers, and final stats of games. I played SH3 to "death" and it is still on my HD and patch/GWX it gave new breath into the game and it became like a "reborn" game, again although, I don't remember that many disasters with the original not-patched SH3,,yes,granted there were some annoying bugs that need to be fixed, but hey, where are we today with SH3? Now I'll take this to the tech.level: When it comes to graphic cards one can see these similar "game-software-debates" hit "videocard-hardware-debates": TO MUCH JAGGIES with my videocard; This videocard is a disaster and soooo on. My point is: All of us in here with so many different PC configs. can for sure produce as many different effects/bugs/none-wanted-effects in a game as we can ask for and blame the game to some extent, but how our computer look like inside/config is another thing, housekeeping, etc,etc,. Like the other day: I had a USB port in front of my computer that was faulty and it produced stuttering in games when it installed my new keyboard. Clean out the closed CAB files and you'll see what magic that does,,,,use a program called "Ace Utility". FreeRegistryFix I can also recommend. Basic game problems is one thing that shows up over and over again from different configs. I.e. r e a l BUGS..................... __________________ Specs Windows 10 64 bit Pro Asus Z - 97A Intel I7-4790K 4 Ghz 16 Gig Trident Claw DDR 3 2 x 760 GTX 2048 mem in SLI. WD 1T Hd Ultra/WD Black 640 Corsair 850W PSU

03-21-07, 01:24 AM	#11
Der Kolkrabe A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Coast, Finland Posts: 71 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I'm waiting my SHIV and don't cancelled it. There been always games, that when published they have bugs...

03-21-07, 08:58 AM	#12
RDDR Bosun Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 67 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	I was going to offer my two cents on some of the comments on this thread this early AM, but as I'm just a newbie on this forum...... who has pre ordered, and who has seen this kind of behavior more than once with the release of a new Sim,So....I'm just going to pour another cup of this fine grind ,paste a , clean up , throw my guitars in the back of my Wrangler and head up the coast to the studio.. (MY JOB) ,and put all this right out of my head until my copy shows up on my desk in a few days. All this negativity almost tripped me up a few minutes ago when I started to read these threads, but I'm OK now and fully awake and choosing a much better reality for "Myself" today Some of you guys just have to lighten up on yourselves.Dont forget we only get to do all this once. .

03-21-07, 12:42 PM	#13
codmander Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: cape cod mass. Posts: 678 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	lol with sh4 getting bashed like this i may get it sooner for 10$

03-21-07, 01:04 PM	#14
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I too have cancelled my order since Amazon today decided to push back delivery to the 1st of April (no doubt they will push it again due to lack of attention to demand/delivery.) Looking for a local retailer now. -Pv-

03-20-07, 11:43 PM	#15
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Nice pic. But I can see that I would be facing shimmering and jaggies, which to me, personally, I'm not speaking for anyone but myself... I find unacceptable in a sim made in the year 2007. Now, if the game actually delivered a 3D rendering at 1600x1200 on my system, and not upscaled from 1024x768, then it would help towards reducing the shimmering/jaggies, which are especially pronounced with distant objects. Although an actual, real, higher res wouldn't totally alleviate the jaggies and shimmering it would help and I would be willing to purchase the game, if it were real! But I have been convinced it's not and that the advertised higher resolutions are faked by being upscaled from 1024x768 by the evidence and testimony that's been presented on the forum here. To me, upscaling from 1024x768 is a practice in deception, a lie, a cheat. I for one am taking a stand against this and Voting 'NO' by voicing my protest here on the forum and with my wallet. If evidence and testimony comes forth showing that the higher resolutions are in fact 'real' and not just upscaled, then I apologize. If that happens and if they promise to finish the game, then I will likely purchase it. __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day. Last edited by OneTinSoldier; 03-21-07 at 12:02 AM.