Angle of bow

Avatar · 03-19-07, 01:29 PM

Start doing AOB with cars and stuff. That's what Richard O'Kane did.

Threadfin · 03-19-07, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatar

Start doing AOB with cars and stuff. That's what Richard O'Kane did.

Don't recall that, where did you see it? What he did as far as I know was have someone make a lazy susan type device upon which was affixed a ship model with graduated AoB markings on the base. He then sat and and looked at that model through his binocluars and practiced estimating the AoB as another crewman turned the model.

And yes, US skippers 'called' the AoB, meaning estimated by visual observation. That's what I always did in SH3, so am ready to do so in SH4.

An easy way to do it is to think of yourself on the bridge of the target, looking at the sub. What angle off the bow is the sub? That is the AoB.

nattydread · 03-19-07, 11:43 PM

Yeah, practice, practice, practice. You'll get good at it real quick. One thing I have noticed is that often times games have a problem accuratly displaying 3D models for really good AoB estimates until the object is up close and in high detail.

I dont know if its a dynamic shading issue or what, but I get issues with the object looking as if it could be both coming and going until its close and drawn in high detail....maybe its just me

OneTinSoldier · 03-20-07, 02:49 AM

Yeah, I have the same problem nattydread, exactly the same. I was hoping that the higher detailed ships in SHIV with bump mapping might help, but I canceled my Amazon.com pre-order.

I'm a little upset with what seems to be a deceptive claim of 'higher resolutions'(above 1024x768). Perhaps if and when I calm down about that I might change my mind, but for right now I feel I can't trust them(Ubi/Devs) at all.

Threadfin · 03-20-07, 09:36 AM

I think that 'coming or going' phenomenon is just natural for a silhouetted object.

Avatar · 03-20-07, 12:00 PM

The book that O'Kane used to practice AoB is "Wahoo."
I think he's in one of the Australian bases.

-Pv- · 03-20-07, 11:27 PM

On top of trying to guess the angle based on observation, the camo paint was purposely designed to try and fool a person into guessing the wrong angle or wrong size of the ship. If you guess wrong once in a while, then that validates the accuracy of the sim.
-Pv-

03-20-07, 02:49 AM	#4
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I have the same problem nattydread, exactly the same. I was hoping that the higher detailed ships in SHIV with bump mapping might help, but I canceled my Amazon.com pre-order. I'm a little upset with what seems to be a deceptive claim of 'higher resolutions'(above 1024x768). Perhaps if and when I calm down about that I might change my mind, but for right now I feel I can't trust them(Ubi/Devs) at all. __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-20-07, 09:36 AM	#5
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,165 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I think that 'coming or going' phenomenon is just natural for a silhouetted object. __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

03-19-07, 01:29 PM	#1
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Start doing AOB with cars and stuff. That's what Richard O'Kane did.

03-19-07, 11:43 PM	#3
nattydread Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 498 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Yeah, practice, practice, practice. You'll get good at it real quick. One thing I have noticed is that often times games have a problem accuratly displaying 3D models for really good AoB estimates until the object is up close and in high detail. I dont know if its a dynamic shading issue or what, but I get issues with the object looking as if it could be both coming and going until its close and drawn in high detail....maybe its just me

03-20-07, 12:00 PM	#6
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	The book that O'Kane used to practice AoB is "Wahoo." I think he's in one of the Australian bases.

03-20-07, 11:27 PM	#7
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	On top of trying to guess the angle based on observation, the camo paint was purposely designed to try and fool a person into guessing the wrong angle or wrong size of the ship. If you guess wrong once in a while, then that validates the accuracy of the sim. -Pv-