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Old 03-16-07, 07:00 AM   #91
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well were still a little short we have ten plus but a few more
wont hurt.

I think what Ill do is I am going to asseble a short briefing for
each engagement listed and when I put up the voting poll
each will have a description that way for those voters
not familiar with all.

that could take sometime anyway as I have someother things
on the go this weekend but it will provide a little time for
later entries.

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Old 03-16-07, 08:10 AM   #92
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Sounds good mush i'm voting for the flying dutchman oops wrong ship:rotfl:
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Old 03-17-07, 05:07 AM   #93
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Chapman was the jimmy of Miers boat Torbay at the time and went on to command his own boat.Miers was well known for his colourful language hence the nickname gamp/crap.
May I suggest Submariners V.C.by Sir William Jameson.An excellent read and it has a chapter on each recipient.

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Old 03-17-07, 06:32 AM   #94
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My first thoughts were IJN Shinano, HMS Royal Oak and USS Indianapolis, but those have already been mentioned.

Then I remembered the sinking of U-864 by HMS Venturer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterseeboot_864

The only time in history a submerged submarine has sunk another submerged submarine Pretty impressive attack, too, going by the description on the Wikipedia page.
That was definitely a first and IIRC 'a one off'
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Old 03-17-07, 09:22 AM   #95
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DEffinatly a good encounter espesh as neither crews at that point had any ASW training at all
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Old 03-19-07, 02:02 AM   #96
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I was Just reading the thread Crab Walk where they are talking about
the sinking of Wilhelm Gustloff.

Many or assumably most of us are familiar with the worst sinking of the war

But my question is what are the top ten sinkings of the war.

list some nominees and we will put up a poll.

arguments should be supported with info.
So post a blurb on the sinking your nominating.

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Watching History's Myteries on the History Channel about the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff. I'd say it definately falls under high contention for one of the top sinkings. I dunno about Dash (or Audacity) but they talk about the S-13 (russian sub) floating amidst the survivors while trying to push the 4th Torp which got stuck halfway out of the tube back in.

He also went on to sink the Steuben, a Hospital Ship with 4300 German Soldiers on her.

the patrol accounting for the greatest loss of life at sea, over 14,000 people

The Sub captain wound up rather scorned as he didn't fit the Communist Ideal of perfection (basically a stereotypical Salty Dog..). He went to prison in 1946 for allowing a friend to take bricks from a construction site.
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Old 03-19-07, 04:21 AM   #97
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He went to prison in 1946 for allowing a friend to take bricks from a construction site.
A bit of poetic justice there....even if a little dilluted
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It was a conversation about the sinking of
Gustlaff that sort of inspired this thread
Im glad to see its been picked back up
I felt we didnt have enough entrants yet
for a fair review.

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He went to prison in 1946 for allowing a friend to take bricks from a construction site.
A bit of poetic justice there....even if a little dilluted
Stalin was probably just jealous...
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Old 03-20-07, 03:33 AM   #100
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He went to prison in 1946 for allowing a friend to take bricks from a construction site.
A bit of poetic justice there....even if a little dilluted
Stalin was probably just jealous...
Stalin just didn't want any opposition to his ideals
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Old 03-20-07, 04:36 AM   #101
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stalin had a higher career score but maybe it was professional jealousy
after all it was a better single hour than stalin ever did the old fashioned
way.

It is remarkable how well the russians did considering the shape
of there instituitional knowledge after the purges.

the soviet/russian peoples are a great people as I have learned over
a few decades of studying the war.

They suffered much by the enemy and much by their own
leadership.

Regarding the thread I think that as I am trying to reduce the number
of projects Im doing and as I havent really gotten a new entrant
in the last two days that I will leave it for one last day for late entries
and then I will assemble the poll for voting tommorow.

MM


In light of recent experience I would gladly take some advice on which is
the best thread to post the poll itself on.
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Old 03-20-07, 08:23 AM   #102
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Some people have all the luck LMAO:rotfl:
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Chapman was the jimmy of Miers boat Torbay at the time and went on to command his own boat.Miers was well known for his colourful language hence the nickname gamp/crap.
May I suggest Submariners V.C.by Sir William Jameson.An excellent read and it has a chapter on each recipient.
By the by Linton Ill thank you for the recommendation
it sounds like it should have been in my collection already
but of course it isnt yet.

thanks for the tip
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