FSAA/Anti-aliasing/Major resolution problem (merged)

shell · 03-19-07, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nhall70

I myself, care very much. I'll still follow the fun posts on this forum about people's adventures in the South Pacific...but I won't be having any adventures myself. I would pay $500 for a copy of SH4 that supports FSAA...but I won't pay $10 for a copy that doesn't.

$500 is a bit to much. But I would pay 100Euro (the price is now around 50Euro). But without AA I wouldnt pay a cent. I will not support this. The hardware is getting better and better and the Devs are now beginning to degenerate the visual quality

. Standards that we have for years now.

Yes, grahpics is not everything. But if I see those jaggies flickering over my screen, 50% of the immersion is killed because my eyes are the main interface between me and the computer.

Dowly · 03-19-07, 03:20 AM

Maybe I dont understand something here, but turning on your devices AA & AF from the control panel applies it to the game too. Atleast SHIII did and I didnt see any jagged edges.

shell · 03-19-07, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Maybe I dont understand something here, but turning on your devices AA & AF from the control panel applies it to the game too. Atleast SHIII did and I didnt see any jagged edges.

But those who have SH4 already say that they can not have AA, even if they force it in the driver.

Drebbel · 03-19-07, 03:52 AM

Maybe I am being naif, but who cares about AA if the images look as nice as the posted screenshots.

The General · 03-19-07, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Drebbel

Maybe I am being naif, but who cares about AA if the images look as nice as the posted screenshots.

That's what I said!

shell · 03-19-07, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Drebbel

Maybe I am being naif, but who cares about AA if the images look as nice as the posted screenshots.

Maybe those who dont like broken wires and masts and ugly jagged edges. Especially in motion!

And in a simulator like SH you have much time to look around.

mearle · 03-19-07, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by shell

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Originally Posted by Drebbel

Maybe I am being naif, but who cares about AA if the images look as nice as the posted screenshots.

Maybe those who dont like broken wires and masts and ugly jagged edges. Especially in motion!

And in a simulator like SH you have much time to look around.

Got to agree it dont look good at all

nhall70 · 03-19-07, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The General

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Originally Posted by Drebbel

Maybe I am being naif, but who cares about AA if the images look as nice as the posted screenshots.

That's what I said!

One thing to keep in mind while you're evaluating screenshots is that they're not moving. The jagged lines are still present, but they're not as distracting in a static shot. Most videos of in-game footage are captured at a very low resolution which also tends to hide the problems associated with no FSAA.

I agree that the screenshots look very nice indeed. But I also know what a 3D graphics image looks like in motion without FSAA and it's awful.

To those who say "we used to get along without it before"...that's true...seven years ago. We used to play games in 16 colors too. This might seem like an extreme example to some, but for those of us who have become accustomed to the benefits of FSAA over the seven years, doing without it is every bit as bad as that.

Dowly · 03-19-07, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by shell

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Maybe I dont understand something here, but turning on your devices AA & AF from the control panel applies it to the game too. Atleast SHIII did and I didnt see any jagged edges.

But those who have SH4 already say that they can not have AA, even if they force it in the driver.

Ah, ok. Thanks for clarifying.

But that´s very weird as I use forced AA most of the time and it works in pretty much every game I can remember. :hmm:

Oh well, the game looks great anyway, so wont bother me too much.

Gammel · 03-19-07, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Maybe I dont understand something here, but turning on your devices AA & AF from the control panel applies it to the game too. Atleast SHIII did and I didnt see any jagged edges.

Yes, but only until you switch the "bloom" effect on (SHIFT / PAGEUP-PAGEDOWN or something)
Perhaps it´s possible in SH4 to turn off that "hollywood effect" stuff with the games .ini file, as soon as my copy has arrived, ill do some testing.
MAybe without any post-processing stuff AA will work...
Lack of AA is really a bit anoying, SH3 was perfectly running with AA forced due driver control panel or external tool on my machine (AtiX800XL)
I own a 19" TFT so especially the wires and masts on ships indeed are looking not so good without AA.
But hey, even it´s impossible to turn AA on in life will go on...
I had a really good time with Silent Service and Pirates! on C64 computer, even without AA

Graphics are less important for good game experience...
Hopefully they did the other stuff right.

AAARRRGGGG no, i wont dl with emule, No!! Stop talking to me, AAARGG

Anyone in germany already got it? I ordered the US import Version at okaysoft for 58 bucks ...

03-19-07, 03:20 AM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Maybe I dont understand something here, but turning on your devices AA & AF from the control panel applies it to the game too. Atleast SHIII did and I didnt see any jagged edges.

03-19-07, 03:52 AM	#4
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Maybe I am being naif, but who cares about AA if the images look as nice as the posted screenshots.