Brooms on subs?

metroman · 03-16-07, 05:03 PM

The broom was put up high upon RTB to show that all enemies encountered were sunk, hence a clean sweep. Also seen were things like women's superstructure support garments, to indicate the crew's eagerness for shore leave.

BW

Hans Schultz · 03-16-07, 05:40 PM

a broom signifies a clean sweep!

Tigrone · 03-16-07, 05:43 PM

Look in my sig. It is after Dutch Admiral Maarten Tromp, who legend held, placed a broom at the masthead to show he had swept the sea clean of the foe--the English in his case. There is an old song called "The Admiral's Broom."

"Maarten Tromp was an admiral bold, the Dutchman's pride was he...."

Pevs86 · 03-16-07, 05:50 PM

That's really cool!

I like bits of info like that

Rykaird · 03-16-07, 06:08 PM

Fascinating. Great picture, and as always, the forum knows all.

edjcox · 03-16-07, 08:19 PM

It was intended to provide a target marking method for submariners...

A few crewman would mix up red and white lead based paint and then dip the broom in it.

Running submerged the captain was required to make two diagonal passes under a targeted boat and engage the broom to paint a large pink x on the bottom of the ship..

Running away on the last pass and coming about he would then engage the targeted ship with his topedoes. The key was to sink the boat so that it would roll over as it sank and therby reveal the pink x to any other observers. These were then photgraphed and were secretly kept and known only to those who had access to the "X" files.

Considered a sign of experience and expertise many sub skippers would attach a broom to the periscope shears in anticipation of their marking attempts.

It evolved very much like the "Snipe Hunt" of yore... Where you placed a flashlight in a paper bag at night deep in the woods in attempt to lure in a snipe....

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Clean sweep..... Argh!! what bilge wash that be.....

Tigrone · 03-17-07, 01:57 AM

"...two diagonal passes under a targeted boat and engage the broom to paint a large pink x on the bottom of the ship."

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Crosseye76 · 03-17-07, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edjcox

It was intended to provide a target marking method for submariners...

A few crewman would mix up red and white lead based paint and then dip the broom in it.

Running submerged the captain was required to make two diagonal passes under a targeted boat and engage the broom to paint a large pink x on the bottom of the ship..

Running away on the last pass and coming about he would then engage the targeted ship with his topedoes. The key was to sink the boat so that it would roll over as it sank and therby reveal the pink x to any other observers. These were then photgraphed and were secretly kept and known only to those who had access to the "X" files.

Considered a sign of experience and expertise many sub skippers would attach a broom to the periscope shears in anticipation of their marking attempts.

It evolved very much like the "Snipe Hunt" of yore... Where you placed a flashlight in a paper bag at night deep in the woods in attempt to lure in a snipe....

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Clean sweep..... Argh!! what bilge wash that be.....

That's utter crap, and you should be ashamed to post it here.

Everyone knows the Boats from Pearl used RED paint, the Fremantle boats used GREEN paint for the X's.

Pink paint indeed, for shame sir !!1!.

sunvalleyslim · 03-17-07, 09:51 AM

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I do hope that is in SH4, so when you come back from patrol, your peers can be envious.

03-17-07, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metroman

The broom was put up high upon RTB to show that all enemies encountered were sunk, hence a clean sweep. Also seen were things like women's superstructure support garments, to indicate the crew's eagerness for shore leave.

BW

Also the womans undergarmets could be used to distract a Japanese surface ship crew in the case of a forced surfacing, allowing the Sub to get away while the sounds of "fapfapfapfap" were heard among the Japaneese ship.

Steeltrap · 03-17-07, 04:45 PM

Fairly certain the first US sub in WWII to do that was Wahoo. They used an Australian broom someone had borrowed when Wahoo was in Brisbane, displaying it upon entering Pearl Harbour after the highly successful 4th (I think) patrol in which they sank an entire, unescorted, convoy of 4 ships. See Wahoo by Dick O'Kane for details.

edjcox · 03-18-07, 02:24 AM

That's otter crap, and you should be ashamed to post it here.

Everyone knows the Boats from Pearl used RED paint, the Fremantle boats used GREEN paint for the X's.

Pink paint indeed, for shame sir !!1!.

HE HE...

Obviously you never had "X" File clearance...... quipped Dick Cheney...

You can apply for it via SA Mulder at 935 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC 20332... Let him know that you also need access to Red, Green, and Pink seal and he'll brief you in right away.... After that you'll know the truth (if you can handle the truth),
they say it's out there..... Damn big ocean to try to find anything.....

Come on UBI..... your killing me here..... Where's my SHIV.....

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Crosseye76 · 03-18-07, 11:58 AM

HeeHee :rotfl:

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03-16-07, 05:03 PM	#1
metroman Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: southern indiana Posts: 9 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Clean Sweep... The broom was put up high upon RTB to show that all enemies encountered were sunk, hence a clean sweep. Also seen were things like women's superstructure support garments, to indicate the crew's eagerness for shore leave. BW

03-16-07, 05:43 PM	#3
Tigrone Commander Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 470 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	I've a broom at the mast! Look in my sig. It is after Dutch Admiral Maarten Tromp, who legend held, placed a broom at the masthead to show he had swept the sea clean of the foe--the English in his case. There is an old song called "The Admiral's Broom." "Maarten Tromp was an admiral bold, the Dutchman's pride was he...." __________________ Commander Hiram Cassedy: "Tigrone has saved the Air Force and is now returning to Iwo Jima with 28 rescued zoomies." B-29 SNUFFY & THE SHIF'LESS SKONKS among them. I've a broom at the mast said he, for the broom is a sign for me, that wherever I go, I sweep the mighty sea. Last edited by Tigrone; 03-17-07 at 01:46 AM.

03-16-07, 05:50 PM	#4
Pevs86 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Uxbridge, England Posts: 123 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	That's really cool! I like bits of info like that __________________

03-16-07, 08:19 PM	#6
edjcox Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shang Gri La Posts: 219 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	The Broom legend It was intended to provide a target marking method for submariners... A few crewman would mix up red and white lead based paint and then dip the broom in it. Running submerged the captain was required to make two diagonal passes under a targeted boat and engage the broom to paint a large pink x on the bottom of the ship.. Running away on the last pass and coming about he would then engage the targeted ship with his topedoes. The key was to sink the boat so that it would roll over as it sank and therby reveal the pink x to any other observers. These were then photgraphed and were secretly kept and known only to those who had access to the "X" files. Considered a sign of experience and expertise many sub skippers would attach a broom to the periscope shears in anticipation of their marking attempts. It evolved very much like the "Snipe Hunt" of yore... Where you placed a flashlight in a paper bag at night deep in the woods in attempt to lure in a snipe.... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Clean sweep..... Argh!! what bilge wash that be..... __________________ EJ Cox http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...jcox/usaCa.gif

03-17-07, 01:57 AM	#7
Tigrone Commander Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 470 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Ok "...two diagonal passes under a targeted boat and engage the broom to paint a large pink x on the bottom of the ship." :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ Commander Hiram Cassedy: "Tigrone has saved the Air Force and is now returning to Iwo Jima with 28 rescued zoomies." B-29 SNUFFY & THE SHIF'LESS SKONKS among them. I've a broom at the mast said he, for the broom is a sign for me, that wherever I go, I sweep the mighty sea.

03-16-07, 05:40 PM	#2
Hans Schultz Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 150 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	a broom signifies a clean sweep!

03-16-07, 06:08 PM	#5
Rykaird Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 356 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Fascinating. Great picture, and as always, the forum knows all.

03-17-07, 09:51 AM	#9
sunvalleyslim Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: I do hope that is in SH4, so when you come back from patrol, your peers can be envious. __________________ Crew member/ decommission member TM2(SS)(SD) 3/68-7/70 DIESEL BOATS FOREVER USS SEGUNDO (SS398)

03-17-07, 04:45 PM	#11
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Fairly certain the first US sub in WWII to do that was Wahoo. They used an Australian broom someone had borrowed when Wahoo was in Brisbane, displaying it upon entering Pearl Harbour after the highly successful 4th (I think) patrol in which they sank an entire, unescorted, convoy of 4 ships. See Wahoo by Dick O'Kane for details.

03-18-07, 02:24 AM	#12
edjcox Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Shang Gri La Posts: 219 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	That's otter crap, and you should be ashamed to post it here. Everyone knows the Boats from Pearl used RED paint, the Fremantle boats used GREEN paint for the X's. Pink paint indeed, for shame sir !!1!. HE HE... Obviously you never had "X" File clearance...... quipped Dick Cheney... You can apply for it via SA Mulder at 935 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC 20332... Let him know that you also need access to Red, Green, and Pink seal and he'll brief you in right away.... After that you'll know the truth (if you can handle the truth), they say it's out there..... Damn big ocean to try to find anything..... Come on UBI..... your killing me here..... Where's my SHIV..... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ EJ Cox http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...jcox/usaCa.gif

03-18-07, 11:58 AM	#13
Crosseye76 Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 258 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	HeeHee :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ There are only two kinds of ships. Submarines and Targets.