Flag size

Mylander · 03-10-07, 08:37 PM

What do you think of the flags on the ships in SH IV? Refer to this thread for reference photos and discussion: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107273

StandingCow · 03-10-07, 08:40 PM

I think flags were more important in SH3, because there were so many different enemies, and earlier in the way you had to make sure they were not neutral to you.

So, I guess, a bit smaller would be fine... doesn't bother me. What is kinda silly is them waving underwater. :p

Paajtor · 03-10-07, 08:45 PM

I think the SH4-flags wave in a weird way...I like the SH3-ones more.
And yeah...the underwater waving is silly, lol.

Iron Budokan · 03-10-07, 09:26 PM

I think they're way too big and I don't like the way they wave.

Safe-Keeper · 03-10-07, 09:34 PM

Have them be of realistic size, and move or remove them where they don't fit in (fishing boats didn't fly huge flags from their mast-tops, for example).

Prof · 03-11-07, 04:08 AM

I think the biggest problem with the flags is not the size but how bright and colourful they are. The merchants in the MS video look very nice and weathered, but they're flying a bright white flag from the mast! The first mod I attempt is going to be toning down the flag colours.
The waving motion is pretty terrible but I only see that as an issue for movie-making...looking through the periscope I don't expect to be able to see the fluttering of the flags.

AJ! · 03-11-07, 04:32 AM

I would say just a bit over sized.... Not much of a problem for me though. I think it was thoughtful of the japanese to make their nations flag a nice bullseye for me

fire-fox · 03-11-07, 05:52 AM

well at lest we dont need to be within 900 meters to tell who's thay are like in SH3

Drebbel · 03-11-07, 06:10 AM

Does any one have actual WWII era pictures of Jap vessels flying the flag ? Because not only the size, but especially the location of the flag seems some what odd to me.

Mylander · 03-11-07, 07:25 AM

Yes - refer to this thread for more discussion, measurements, photos, and everything you never wanted to know: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107273
I agree that the underwater behavior is wierd, but am not so worried about that. I think it would take quite a bit of programming to fix that. Just making them smaller shouldn't be too difficult.
Mylander

Barkhorn1x · 03-11-07, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mylander

Just making them smaller shouldn't be too difficult.
Mylander

Agreed. We're gonna need a flag mod.

Mylander · 03-11-07, 11:37 AM

Roger that, Barkhorn - really enjoyed the website of Japanese ship pics!

Mylander

P.S. Monty Python comes to mind:

- "We should keep the flags just as big as they are! It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression!"

- "It's symbolic of your struggle against reality!" :rotfl:

Barkhorn1x · 03-11-07, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mylander

Roger that, Barkhorn - really enjoyed the website of Japanese ship pics!

Yea, that site was a good find.

Sailor Steve · 03-11-07, 02:58 PM

Don't know about the flags, but somebody's sig is WAY too big!

Elder-Pirate · 03-11-07, 03:33 PM

Found some interesting USN WWII Submarine battle flags, take a look.

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq62-1.htm

As far as SH IV oversized flags ( I'm in the middle on this one :hmm: ) guess we'll have to make a flag mod.

View Poll Results: Waht do think of the size of the flags on surface ships in SH IV?
Way too small	0	0%
Too small, but OK	1	1.79%
Just right	14	25.00%
Too big, but OK	22	39.29%
Way too big	19	33.93%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

03-10-07, 08:37 PM	#1
Mylander Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Bern, NC, USA Posts: 120 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Flag size What do you think of the flags on the ships in SH IV? Refer to this thread for reference photos and discussion: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107273 __________________ Periscope depth... Up Scope... Last edited by Mylander; 03-11-07 at 07:23 AM.

03-10-07, 08:40 PM	#2
StandingCow Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I think flags were more important in SH3, because there were so many different enemies, and earlier in the way you had to make sure they were not neutral to you. So, I guess, a bit smaller would be fine... doesn't bother me. What is kinda silly is them waving underwater. :p __________________

03-10-07, 08:45 PM	#3
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	I think the SH4-flags wave in a weird way...I like the SH3-ones more. And yeah...the underwater waving is silly, lol. __________________

03-10-07, 09:26 PM	#4
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I think they're way too big and I don't like the way they wave. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

03-10-07, 09:34 PM	#5
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Have them be of realistic size, and move or remove them where they don't fit in (fishing boats didn't fly huge flags from their mast-tops, for example). __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-11-07, 04:08 AM	#6
Prof Medic Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I think the biggest problem with the flags is not the size but how bright and colourful they are. The merchants in the MS video look very nice and weathered, but they're flying a bright white flag from the mast! The first mod I attempt is going to be toning down the flag colours. The waving motion is pretty terrible but I only see that as an issue for movie-making...looking through the periscope I don't expect to be able to see the fluttering of the flags.

03-11-07, 04:32 AM	#7
AJ! Commodore Join Date: May 2006 Location: That lil island above france Posts: 601 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would say just a bit over sized.... Not much of a problem for me though. I think it was thoughtful of the japanese to make their nations flag a nice bullseye for me __________________ Last edited by AJ!; 03-11-07 at 08:26 AM.

03-11-07, 05:52 AM	#8
fire-fox Chief Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Peoples Republic of West Yorkshire Posts: 326 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	well at lest we dont need to be within 900 meters to tell who's thay are like in SH3 __________________ Running subs aground since SH1 and Silent Service Running SH5 @ 100% difficulty + TWoS 2.2.19(RealNav + BDU + port smoke + food) + Carotio_IntercontinentalRadioPack tweaked + The Little Ships of SH5 - Coaster Pack

03-11-07, 06:10 AM	#9
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Does any one have actual WWII era pictures of Jap vessels flying the flag ? Because not only the size, but especially the location of the flag seems some what odd to me.

03-11-07, 07:25 AM	#10
Mylander Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Bern, NC, USA Posts: 120 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Yes - refer to this thread for more discussion, measurements, photos, and everything you never wanted to know: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107273 I agree that the underwater behavior is wierd, but am not so worried about that. I think it would take quite a bit of programming to fix that. Just making them smaller shouldn't be too difficult. Mylander __________________ Periscope depth... Up Scope... Last edited by Mylander; 03-11-07 at 08:59 AM.

03-11-07, 11:37 AM	#12
Mylander Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Bern, NC, USA Posts: 120 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Roger that, Barkhorn - really enjoyed the website of Japanese ship pics! Mylander P.S. Monty Python comes to mind: - "We should keep the flags just as big as they are! It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression!" - "It's symbolic of your struggle against reality!" :rotfl: __________________ Periscope depth... Up Scope...

03-11-07, 02:58 PM	#14
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Don't know about the flags, but somebody's sig is WAY too big! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-11-07, 03:33 PM	#15
Elder-Pirate Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Morris, Illinois USA Posts: 1,090 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Found some interesting USN WWII Submarine battle flags, take a look. http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq62-1.htm As far as SH IV oversized flags ( I'm in the middle on this one :hmm: ) guess we'll have to make a flag mod. __________________