Sub rose when ordered to dive??

tmdgm · 03-01-07, 07:47 PM

I was going slow, maybe 2 or 3 knots. So you have to go > 3 knots to go below 100m? That doesn't sound like a good idea when you are trying to avoid a tin can. I'll have to check out the manual see if I can find what you refer.

Sgian Dubh · 03-01-07, 08:21 PM

I think the behaviour that jimbuna is referring to is this:

If you have damage and have water coming in, you will be restricted to shallower depths.

Why?

Water pressure. Water pressure increases with depth. If you have a little bit of water coming in at 50m, you will have a lot of water coming in at 150m.

So you have to get creative and really work the damage control crew.

Also, as I found out a few days ago, if you are using SH3Commander and have malfunctions turned on, one of the possible results is "diving inefficiency".

Good luck!

tmdgm · 03-01-07, 08:25 PM

nope, no damage.

Sgian Dubh · 03-01-07, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmdgm

nope, no damage.

My apologies.

I mis-read your first post. I thought you had stated that you *did* have some flooding.

I have noticed some things like this with GXW, but I've only been using it for a few days, so I am not the correct person to try and tell you what is goign on.

I only mentioned the water pressure thing becasue it seemed to fit the (misunderstood) facts.

Steppenwolf · 03-01-07, 09:25 PM

Most people are aware that at low speeds like 1-2 knots and near the surface, your subs actual depth will be a couple of meters higher than ordered. However, at low speed and deeper depths (like the 100 or so meters you mentioned) the difference between ordered depth and actual depth can be 20 or 30 meters (EX. You order 100 meters, but sub never goes below 80). Both of these are the result of the positive buoyancy feature. I believe the GWX team (Rubini) is aware of the problem at deeper depths and working on a remedy.

See this post:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...464#post427464

See these other two postings for some discussion on the problem:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ive#post394141

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ion#post394169

Hartmann · 03-01-07, 10:03 PM

There is a little mod for restore neutral buoiancy in GWX

i think is the better compromise vs gameplay and reality. :hmm:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=boyancy

03-01-07, 08:21 PM	#2
Sgian Dubh Officer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 245 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think the behaviour that jimbuna is referring to is this: If you have damage and have water coming in, you will be restricted to shallower depths. Why? Water pressure. Water pressure increases with depth. If you have a little bit of water coming in at 50m, you will have a lot of water coming in at 150m. So you have to get creative and really work the damage control crew. Also, as I found out a few days ago, if you are using SH3Commander and have malfunctions turned on, one of the possible results is "diving inefficiency". Good luck! __________________ \"One ping to find them all, One ping to link them; One ping to promote them all, and in the darkness sink them.\" with apologies to J.R.R. Tolkien

03-01-07, 09:25 PM	#5
Steppenwolf 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Most people are aware that at low speeds like 1-2 knots and near the surface, your subs actual depth will be a couple of meters higher than ordered. However, at low speed and deeper depths (like the 100 or so meters you mentioned) the difference between ordered depth and actual depth can be 20 or 30 meters (EX. You order 100 meters, but sub never goes below 80). Both of these are the result of the positive buoyancy feature. I believe the GWX team (Rubini) is aware of the problem at deeper depths and working on a remedy. See this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...464#post427464 See these other two postings for some discussion on the problem: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ive#post394141 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ion#post394169 Last edited by Steppenwolf; 03-01-07 at 09:38 PM.

03-01-07, 10:03 PM	#6
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	There is a little mod for restore neutral buoiancy in GWX i think is the better compromise vs gameplay and reality. :hmm: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...hlight=boyancy __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

03-01-07, 07:47 PM	#1
tmdgm Engineer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 219 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I was going slow, maybe 2 or 3 knots. So you have to go > 3 knots to go below 100m? That doesn't sound like a good idea when you are trying to avoid a tin can. I'll have to check out the manual see if I can find what you refer.

03-01-07, 08:25 PM	#3
tmdgm Engineer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 219 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	nope, no damage.