Difference between SH3 and SH4?

[Janus]

Originally Posted by Barkhorn1x

What we know - besides the graphics overhall - is;
- Double the radio traffic
[...]
But still, much of the time you are going to travel to a patrol area to sink stuff. If that is boring to you then you should pass.

Barkhorn.

Double the radio traffic - compared to "be more aggressive" and "good job" you get from BdU in SHIII what can there be in SHIV?

The campaign definately was the weak spot in SHIII for me: missions always the same, no communication with BdU and most of all no Wolfpacks and some other stuff.

It would have been cool if the SHIII campaign would have been more like Falcon 4's campaign for example.

[John Channing]

Originally Posted by Janus

It would have been cool if the SHIII campaign would have been more like Falcon 4's campaign for example.

You mean that you would prefer that it took 10 years to get it almost working properly?

JCC

[Spin Doctor]

Originally Posted by John Channing

You mean that you would prefer that it took 10 years to get it almost working properly?

JCC

I'm pretty sure that he just means one that is immersive. You already knew that, I've no doubt even if it did take awhile to get its act together. It was worth it in the long run since someone had the foresight to put the basic campaign building blocks into place even if they were not allowed the time (since Microprose was about to go under) to put it all together. I have a copy of the Falcon 4.0 special edition binder here at work and people ask about it from time to time. I work for a military flight simulator developer doing hardware QA and some of the programmers seem impressed with the level of detail included in the manual.

Actually, a good MP component can make up for a multitude of campaign sins. Take IL2 for instance. The campaign and single player were mediocre at best, but the online component, which was very well done, kept it alive for over 5 years, with little signs of stopping. It holds the record on my harddrive for longevity and it's still excellent for a quick fix or a long campaign type online war.

[joea]

Originally Posted by Spin Doctor

I'm pretty sure that he just means one that is immersive. You already knew that, I've no doubt even if it did take awhile to get its act together. It was worth it in the long run since someone had the foresight to put the basic campaign building blocks into place even if they were not allowed the time (since Microprose was about to go under) to put it all together. I have a copy of the Falcon 4.0 special edition binder here at work and people ask about it from time to time. I work for a military flight simulator developer doing hardware QA and some of the programmers seem impressed with the level of detail included in the manual.

Actually, a good MP component can make up for a multitude of campaign sins. Take IL2 for instance. The campaign and single player were mediocre at best, but the online component, which was very well done, kept it alive for over 5 years, with little signs of stopping. It holds the record on my harddrive for longevity and it's still excellent for a quick fix or a long campaign type online war.

3rd party came out with some superb campaigns for offline which should have been integrated from the start.

[John Channing]

Nothing personal guys... I just love poking "falconeers".

JCC

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by John Channing

Nothing personal guys... I just love poking "falconeers".

JCC

Smile when you say that hombre

[Spin Doctor]

He's probably smiling when he's poking, regardless...

[Tool]

Originally Posted by John Channing

Nothing personal guys... I just love poking "falconeers".

JCC

No poking us.. And if you really want to try Falcon in it's ultimate form.. Try the new Open Falcon 4.3. What F4 always should have been. Our squadron has done away with AF even.

Oh.. and back on topic.. according to the preview in the new issue of Games For Windows Magazine, SHIV multiplayer with escorts/destroyers will be like an RTS. Meaning, you can tell ships where to go and patrol and watch the action from above (I assume this based on my experience with an RTS), but not actually be at the helm dropping charges.

Tool.

[OlegM]

Originally Posted by Tool

Oh.. and back on topic.. according to the preview in the new issue of Games For Windows Magazine, SHIV multiplayer with escorts/destroyers will be like an RTS. Meaning, you can tell ships where to go and patrol and watch the action from above (I assume this based on my experience with an RTS), but not actually be at the helm dropping charges.

That's April issue of GFW right? March is the last issue I've seen, and there was no SHIV preview in there.

Can you provide more details? Is there a screenshot of this "view from above"? I am afraid it won't be terribly involving and fun for escort commander to spend the whole game in some top down view while 3 submarine captains are having all the fun in 3D chasing his merchants?