depth charges

Fer32 · 02-24-07, 07:50 PM

I would like to know if it would be a difference in the way depth charge explosions are modeled inside the sub. Besides the swing left and righ we see now in SH3, it would be cool and (more real? ) to have a sudden shake when the explosion is very near as we see in movies, maybe some blur in your vision too. At least for me it would be more scary and inmersive in the terrorific moments a sub is being depth charged. (sorry for my English)

Torplexed · 02-24-07, 07:55 PM

Some of the photographs Gunther Lothar Bucheim took aboard the U-96 during a depth charge attack are blurred and shakey. Did make events look a lot more compelling.

Finback · 02-25-07, 12:30 AM

Of course, he may have been shaking in his boots

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I would also like to see more depth control/shoving-to-the-side caused by depth charges. It would be a plus but not a sim killer if it isn't included.

trenken · 02-25-07, 01:09 AM

Well you would hope with this being a sequel they would make improvements to various parts of the game such as depth charges rather than saying, "Hey, here's SH3 in the pacific with some better looking water".

I'm confident they improved a lot of the game, but I am worried that it's not going to be the same jump from in quality from 3 to 4 and as it was from 2 to 3.

CCIP · 02-25-07, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by trenken

I'm confident they improved a lot of the game, but I am worried that it's not going to be the same jump from in quality from 3 to 4 and as it was from 2 to 3.

Depends on what you mean by quality. Otherwise it's unfair to expect given that unlike 2 and 3, 3 and 4 share the same engine, even if massively improved.

flintlock · 02-25-07, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by trenken

I'm confident they improved a lot of the game, but I am worried that it's not going to be the same jump from in quality from 3 to 4 and as it was from 2 to 3.

Perhaps not, though an improvement nonetheless. SH4 strikes me more of an evolution than revolution, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. I hope SH4 will be a successful project for Ubi, and based on that success -- they take their time and engineer a whole new engine for SHx.

Aimbot · 02-25-07, 04:20 AM

It would be nice if depth charges could affect your depth by a few meter, like they were reported to. Also a bit of debris would be a nice touch.

Hartmann · 02-25-07, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fer32

I would like to know if it would be a difference in the way depth charge explosions are modeled inside the sub. Besides the swing left and righ we see now in SH3, it would be cool and (more real? ) to have a sudden shake when the explosion is very near as we see in movies, maybe some blur in your vision too. At least for me it would be more scary and inmersive in the terrorific moments a sub is being depth charged. (sorry for my English)

you can try it in sh3 with depth charges shake mod.

really scary

Camaero · 02-25-07, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

Some of the photographs Gunther Lothar Bucheim took aboard the U-96 during a depth charge attack are blurred and shakey. Did make events look a lot more compelling.

Not to go off topic, but where could one find those pictures?

trenken · 02-25-07, 04:44 PM

If you saw the movie Das Boot, he's the journalist that was brought aboard. After the patrol, he wrote a book in which it had many of the pictures he took. You can still order this book, but im not sure if the pictures are actually on the web. He also wrote the book in 1975 that the movie was based on.

He actually died 3 days ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar-...nther_Buchheim

Sailor Steve · 02-25-07, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by trenken

If you saw the movie Das Boot, he's the journalist that was brought aboard. After the patrol, he wrote a book in which it had many of the pictures he took. You can still order this book, but im not sure if the pictures are actually on the web. He also wrote the book in 1975 that the movie was based on.

He actually died 3 days ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar-...nther_Buchheim

We all know this, but why is it on the "Depth-Charges" thread?

hyperion2206 · 02-25-07, 06:05 PM

Steve, you found out that the Japanese had only 2 different depth settings for their depth charges,right? I wonder if they modeled it. I don't believe it because it would make the game far to easy. But if we want 100% realism (realistic torpedo duds) then we should want/get realistic depth settings.

Torplexed · 02-25-07, 06:08 PM

Here are some of the Bucheim photos Trenken mentioned. That's Captain Lehmann-Willenbrock in the foreground on whom the captain in Das Boot is loosely based. Bucheim says the commotion from this attack damaged the shutter on his camera.

trenken · 02-25-07, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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Originally Posted by trenken

If you saw the movie Das Boot, he's the journalist that was brought aboard. After the patrol, he wrote a book in which it had many of the pictures he took. You can still order this book, but im not sure if the pictures are actually on the web. He also wrote the book in 1975 that the movie was based on.

He actually died 3 days ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar-...nther_Buchheim

We all know this, but why is it on the "Depth-Charges" thread?

Because if you read through the entire thread someone brought up pictures that he took while being depth charged, and then someone asked where you could see these photos, and then I responded.

Sailor Steve · 02-25-07, 06:44 PM

Okay, okay! I'm in a cranky mood today!

Sorry.

02-24-07, 07:50 PM	#1
Fer32 Seaman Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 37 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	depth charges I would like to know if it would be a difference in the way depth charge explosions are modeled inside the sub. Besides the swing left and righ we see now in SH3, it would be cool and (more real? ) to have a sudden shake when the explosion is very near as we see in movies, maybe some blur in your vision too. At least for me it would be more scary and inmersive in the terrorific moments a sub is being depth charged. (sorry for my English)

02-24-07, 07:55 PM	#2
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Some of the photographs Gunther Lothar Bucheim took aboard the U-96 during a depth charge attack are blurred and shakey. Did make events look a lot more compelling. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

02-25-07, 12:30 AM	#3
Finback Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Of course, he may have been shaking in his boots . I would also like to see more depth control/shoving-to-the-side caused by depth charges. It would be a plus but not a sim killer if it isn't included. __________________ Past Hatteras the convoys sail, It seems the Allies will prevail. Churchill and Franklin share a grin, They know who's gonna win this sim. Finback

02-25-07, 06:05 PM	#12
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Steve, you found out that the Japanese had only 2 different depth settings for their depth charges,right? I wonder if they modeled it. I don't believe it because it would make the game far to easy. But if we want 100% realism (realistic torpedo duds) then we should want/get realistic depth settings. __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

02-25-07, 06:08 PM	#13
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Here are some of the Bucheim photos Trenken mentioned. That's Captain Lehmann-Willenbrock in the foreground on whom the captain in Das Boot is loosely based. Bucheim says the commotion from this attack damaged the shutter on his camera. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

02-25-07, 01:09 AM	#4
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well you would hope with this being a sequel they would make improvements to various parts of the game such as depth charges rather than saying, "Hey, here's SH3 in the pacific with some better looking water". I'm confident they improved a lot of the game, but I am worried that it's not going to be the same jump from in quality from 3 to 4 and as it was from 2 to 3.

02-25-07, 04:20 AM	#7
Aimbot Medic Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 160 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It would be nice if depth charges could affect your depth by a few meter, like they were reported to. Also a bit of debris would be a nice touch.

02-25-07, 04:44 PM	#10
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you saw the movie Das Boot, he's the journalist that was brought aboard. After the patrol, he wrote a book in which it had many of the pictures he took. You can still order this book, but im not sure if the pictures are actually on the web. He also wrote the book in 1975 that the movie was based on. He actually died 3 days ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar-...nther_Buchheim

02-25-07, 06:44 PM	#15
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Okay, okay! I'm in a cranky mood today! Sorry. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo