Would you try it, enter the Inland sea?

[nattydread]

Originally Posted by CCIP

I'd take a crack at it for the challenge. Japanese ASW doesn't impress me, though I sincerely hope the game won't give it to me as the main patrol grid anyway

You might want to re-think that, some of the best of the best were sunken by the Japanese in the Sea of Japan. Shallow waters can be a pain, but aircraft still have an advantage. Yeah the radar detection onboard helps, but it didnt always work and had flaws...especially early versions. If your radar detection takes damage or goes out for whatever reason, expect a hard ride home. One lucky sighting by a plane, and a stealthy dive from out of the sun and your pig boat is bacon.

No good skipper with a reputable kill tally did it totally safe, they took risks. They went in when there were escoets, they stayed in there until the last possible minute, they had to take risks to be effective and those risks sometimes got them killed, sometimes it was a lucky shot by the enemy(sometime it was their own fish), or some missed an assignment, or was too slow in reacting or fell victim to the green/rookie mistakes on the planes, the bubble, or just plain complacency, etc.

They enemy doesnt always get you, sometimes you get yourself...or atleast help the enemy out.

So if your any good(as in getting kills) your going to likly get in trouble and you'll begin to respect those IJN ASW vessels...and their bomb toting birds!

[hyperion2206]

Originally Posted by Captain Krunch

In real life, it doesn't look like many American skippers tried it. Below is a photo of part of a wall display at the Sub Museum at Groton, CT, showing where ships were sunk (The circles are cargo ships, triangles are tankers, and the subs are, well, US subs lost). Only three sinkings just north of the Bungo Suido, and that's it.

Wasn't the Wahoo sunk in the Sea of Japan? If she was why isn't she on that map and if she wasn't sunk there, were was she sunk? Oh boy, I shouldn't ask more than 2 questions.

[Zero Niner]

The Wahoo was sunk in the La Perouse (Soya) Strait between the Japanese island of Hokkaido and the Russian island of Sakhalin, so it would be out of the map image posted by Capt Krunch.

Link: http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=26378

[hyperion2206]

Originally Posted by Zero Niner

The Wahoo was sunk in the La Perouse (Soya) Strait between the Japanese island of Hokkaido and the Russian island of Sakhalin, so it would be out of the map image posted by Capt Krunch.

Link: http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=26378

Thanx Zero Niner! I knew it was somewhere in that region.

[zaza]

Once I lived in Matsuyama, the near of Kure base.

We call that shallow channel "Seto nai kai"


If I were captain of US sub, I never go there!!!
Too narrow ! If go surface, there is many ships,
fishing ship, boats, and many people lives near sea!
Easy to find.

Even today (about 15years ago) Often I read the newspaper
some ship were hit to another ship.
Too many ships!:hmm:

[Iron Budokan]

Of course I would try it...

[geetrue]

I figured out what to do ... I have an old MSI 478 motherboard laying around, all I need is an old AGP video card, an intel P4 3.0 478 (under a $100 now) and a cheap case.

For under $200 I can have another computer to set up next to me with a full screen cut away of a fleet boat for orientation, actual charts for the Sea of Japan that you can zoom in on, helpful hints from nattydread and all of you nice people on SH4 forums, plus the desire to take out an unescorted IJN carrier and boogie back to Pearl for a re-load.

Simple, uh?

[Hartmann]

I would try but Wahoo was lost in perouse straits.
a very dangerous operation.

final action reports and photos of the last moments of the boat

http://www.emackinnon.com/Wahoo-Fina...rt.html#photos
http://www.warfish.com/scrap7.html

[Elder-Pirate]

A guy with this little Sub could run all over the place and maybe never even be seen although he'd cause no damage unless he had some small magnetic mines he could swim out of his sub,attach said mine to enemy ships hull, get back in his mini sub and go like h#$%. :rotfl:

[CCIP]

Is that some elite Spetsnaz sub?

[flintlock]

That ain't no sub.

Check out this proposal for a 65-meter private luxury sub:

http://www.ussubs.com/submarines/phoenix.pdf

Now that's a sub!

[Hartmann]

Originally Posted by flintlock

That ain't no sub.

Check out this proposal for a 65-meter private luxury sub:

http://www.ussubs.com/submarines/phoenix.pdf

Now that's a sub!

Is very similar to a XXI boat .. :hmm: including specs.

i would paint the boat with a cammo patern :rotfl:

[flintlock]

I'm sure for what they would charge, you could have it painted cammo or whatever else you'd like.

Boasts some impressive specs:

Depth 1000 feet (305 m)
Length: 213 feet (65.0 m)
Beam: 26.3 feet (8.0 m)
Displacement: 1500 tons

Max. Surface Speed: 17 knots
Cruising Speed: 15 knots
Max. Submerged Speed: 10 knots

Surface Diesels: 2 x 1500 HP
Main Electric Motors: 2 x 500 HP, 360 V DC
Vertical Thrusters: 2 x 150 HP, hydraulic
Horizontal Thrusters: 2 x 150 HP, hydraulic

Main Oxygen: 30 days, full load
Reserve Oxygen: 10 days

Surface Range: 3500 + nautical miles
Submerged Endurance
at 10 knots: 6 hours
at 5 knots: 50 hours
at 2.5 knots: 140 hours
at rest: 20 days minimum

[Elder-Pirate]

I just put in an order for one in "Chartreuse". :rotfl: :rotfl:

[dean_acheson]

Originally Posted by Boris

I would stupidly go and do it, probably more than once, and typically I would'n't learn from my mistakes either. Just like almost every career I ever did in SH3 ended in the channel or Scapa flow.

LOL at that. That is a familliar story! It's always, this time I'll try it this way, and I'm sure that I'll make it....

I can see going into the inland see, if only to pretend I'm Mush for abit....