So much for Democrats courting gun owners

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by waste gate

If those who continue to to manufacture their own fire arms will be criminals by their disobedience to the law which the government has legally made.

So if a criminal (who by his very nature disobeys the law) wants to make his own guns, your new law will make him not do it?

If fire arms are banned no criminal activity will threaten your life.

See above. Criminals attack people all the time with other weapons, including their very size and strength. If some guy with a knife wants to attack me, how do I defend myself? A gun seems like the way to go to me.

I don't understand. Are you saying that governments always allow people their rights?

Of course where else would you get rights.

Governments deny people their rights all the time. Look at Germany during the period of the game we like to play. Look at the United States, denying certain segments of the population equal rights for more than a hundred years. The whole point of trying to guarantee rights is the problem that the people in control are always trying to deny others their "God given" rights. It's what governments do best.

Please, list your cases where the government purposely turned on those it governs.

You're joking, right? The United States fought a major civil war just a few generations ago, because a large portion of the population was being denied ALL rights, including the right to be considered anything more than property. There are many examples of governments denying all kinds of rights. Unfortunately my time at the library is almost up; I'll have to continue this tomorrow.

But think about this: right now you're advocating that the government take away my right to defend myself. If you get your way you will have no protection from the possibility of that same government deciding that you no longer have the right to drive a car, watch a movie or even play video games.

All rights come from the consent of the people, not the government.