So much for Democrats courting gun owners

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by geetrue

You left out steal your guns, too ... with or without your being at home

That is the least of your problems I think. I do need to buy a bigger safe though! At least if you can get one or two after some form of Natural Disaster, you'll have at least the ability to defend yourself against these idiots.

That is our problem - we have become too dependant on our infrastructure. THis is an infrastructure that is very vulnerable to many things. You in WA are more at risk than many other people too - you have a 9.0 Earthquake coming your way sooner or later (It is overdue) and I can gurantee that it will make Katrina look like childs play. Surviving would be great, but what happens after that will be the ugliest thing you will ever lay your eyes on, and you better be armed.

Just my 2 cents.

-S

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

and

Same here, but it's a Romainian Made. Called the GP WASR-10 (which is just a AK-47). Got Semi-Jacketed rounds. Imported by Century Arms Int. Here's a pic:



But I got a composite (olive drab) stock, a composite (olive drab) front handguard, and 2 black steel mags (shown in the above pic), and finally a 30-round clear composite mag. This is exactly what it looks like right now (but the composites are in olive drab, not the tan shown here):


http://www.tapco.com/show_image.aspx...5-3de9ded562be

Also got a Mossberg 500 (12 Ga.).

That looks evil. Let's ban it.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by waste gate

That looks evil. Let's ban it.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: THat is the demo's mentality allright.

Oh! Hey! Did someone forget to mention that we all live in an evil world? :hmm: Even in the perfect Star Trek of the future, people still carry Phasers - and for good reason. The need for weaponry will never go away for eternity, at least not until man is no longer alive. There will always be someone out there trying to take everything you've got - including your life - and no, the cops can't help you. They are only good for producing the paperwork after the fact.

-S

[U-533]

AK47...

One of the most handsome weapons made... and heartiest.

We would use them most times in place of the M16.

To bad it has the stigma of being a "RED COMMIE" / "Terrorist"/ "Poor country's" Weapon.

[fatty]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I hope you're joking. THat is a sick thought.

I was, but were you?

I don't understand the laughing faces. Are you mocking my opinion?
Why does anyone, other than the government and its agents need such a weapon?
Has there ever been a time in which a government didn't allow people their God given rights? Why would anyone ever have a use for a firearm which could take a life? After all criminal activity is enviromental and if guns are banned no one will have them.

[loynokid]

here's my list of the top 5 countries and dictators with oppresive gun control laws

1. the old USSR

2. Fidel Castro

3. Hitler and the Nazis

4. Kim Jung Il and North Korea

5. The Red Chinese Communists


guess who else wants extreme gun control... the dems of congress!!!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by fatty

I was, but were you?

I am not joking.

I understand your ignorance being from Canada, but one day you guys will wake up. Hopefully for a fellow subsimmer, I hope it is not too late.

-S

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by waste gate

I don't understand the laughing faces. Are you mocking my opinion?

I'm not, but I disagree mightily.

Why does anyone, other than the government and its agents need such a weapon?

Why does a government or its agents need such a weapon? I trust my neighbors with guns more than I trust governments with guns. Here in Utah I've been told by cops that they consider armed citizens to be their best backup.

Has there ever been a time in which a government didn't allow people their God given rights?

I don't understand. Are you saying that governments always allow people their rights? If so, I can show you many cases of governments denying citizens their rights. History is full of them.

Why would anyone ever have a use for a firearm which could take a life?

I'm 5 feet 8 inches tall and nearly 60 years old. When a 6-foot-2 guy comes into my apartment and attacks me without warning, should I beat him up? How?

After all criminal activity is enviromental and if guns are banned no one will have them.

All criminal activity is NOT environmental. I've met people who really were broken-they had no concept of right and wrong. Second half of your sentence: show me exactly how you would ban all guns. I personally know people who know how to make their own. From scratch. Also, how exactly do you propose to ban ALL guns?

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm not, but I disagree mightily.

Why does a government or its agents need such a weapon? I trust my neighbors with guns more than I trust governments with guns. Here in Utah I've been told by cops that they consider armed citizens to be their best backup.

I don't understand. Are you saying that governments always allow people their rights? If so, I can show you many cases of governments denying citizens their rights. History is full of them.

I'm 5 feet 8 inches tall and nearly 60 years old. When a 6-foot-2 guy comes into my apartment and attacks me without warning, should I beat him up? How?

All criminal activity is NOT environmental. I've met people who really were broken-they had no concept of right and wrong. Second half of your sentence: show me exactly how you would ban all guns. I personally know people who know how to make their own. From scratch. Also, how exactly do you propose to ban ALL guns?

show me exactly how you would ban all guns. I personally know people who know how to make their own. From scratch. Also, how exactly do you propose to ban ALL guns?

[/QUOTE]If those who continue to to manufacture their own fire arms will be criminals by their disobedience to the law which the government has legally made.

I'm 5 feet 8 inches tall and nearly 60 years old. When a 6-foot-2 guy comes into my apartment and attacks me without warning, should I beat him up? How?

If fire arms are banned no criminal activity will threaten your life.

I don't understand. Are you saying that governments always allow people their rights?

Of course where else would you get rights.

If so, I can show you many cases of governments denying citizens their rights. History is full of them.

Please, list your cases where the government purposely turned on those it governs.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

...gun control? ...changes to?

Didnt Sailor Steve have a Springfield?

Why is there a silhouette outside the wi-

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by waste gate

If fire arms are banned no criminal activity will threaten your life.

What about knives and other weapons? One need not have a projectile to injure and kill.

Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

What about knives and other weapons? One need not have a projectile to injure and kill.

First we start with guns. Then we can move on to knives and 'other' weapons.

[U-533]

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ok im missing something here...



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I know Kungfo
and other Martial arts will I be banned too?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by waste gate

If those who continue to to manufacture their own fire arms will be criminals by their disobedience to the law which the government has legally made.

So if a criminal (who by his very nature disobeys the law) wants to make his own guns, your new law will make him not do it?

If fire arms are banned no criminal activity will threaten your life.

See above. Criminals attack people all the time with other weapons, including their very size and strength. If some guy with a knife wants to attack me, how do I defend myself? A gun seems like the way to go to me.

I don't understand. Are you saying that governments always allow people their rights?

Of course where else would you get rights.

Governments deny people their rights all the time. Look at Germany during the period of the game we like to play. Look at the United States, denying certain segments of the population equal rights for more than a hundred years. The whole point of trying to guarantee rights is the problem that the people in control are always trying to deny others their "God given" rights. It's what governments do best.

Please, list your cases where the government purposely turned on those it governs.

You're joking, right? The United States fought a major civil war just a few generations ago, because a large portion of the population was being denied ALL rights, including the right to be considered anything more than property. There are many examples of governments denying all kinds of rights. Unfortunately my time at the library is almost up; I'll have to continue this tomorrow.

But think about this: right now you're advocating that the government take away my right to defend myself. If you get your way you will have no protection from the possibility of that same government deciding that you no longer have the right to drive a car, watch a movie or even play video games.

All rights come from the consent of the people, not the government.