So much for Democrats courting gun owners

[dean_acheson]

I can't believe that it took almost a month....


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1022.IH:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_McCarthy


I am not a big gun owner, my collection consisting of an 1863 US Springfield Rifle and an 1873 US Springfiled trapdoor, but this is not something that I am excited about.

It never ceases to amaze me that the people the go frothy talking about the penumbras of the bill of rights are so quick to cut out specific chunks they don't like....


"Although the Constitution does not explicitly mention any right of privacy, the Court had previously found support for various privacy rights in several provisions of the Bill of Rights and the Fourteenth Amendment, as well as in the "penumbra" of the Bill of Rights. But instead of relying upon the Bill of Rights or "penumbras, formed by emanations", as the Court had done in Griswold v. Connecticut, the Roe Court relied on a "right of privacy" that it said was located in the Due Process Clause of the Constitution." (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade )

[MadMike]

Typical. The American left knows little about firearms (as evidenced by the repetitive use of nomenclature). Here's one of my favorites-

"and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'.

Yours, Mike

[MadMike]

This one, although off topic, reflects stupidity and naivete-

(go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ and type in H.R. 880)

H.R. 880

H.R.808

Department of Peace and Nonviolence Act (Introduced in House)Beginning
February 5, 2007

• SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

• Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.

• SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

TITLE I--ESTABLISHMENT OF DEPARTMENT OF PEACE AND NONVIOLENCE

• SEC. 101. ESTABLISHMENT OF DEPARTMENT OF PEACE AND NONVIOLENCE.

• SEC. 102. RESPONSIBILITIES AND POWERS.

• SEC. 103. PRINCIPAL OFFICERS.

• SEC. 104. OFFICE OF PEACE EDUCATION AND TRAINING.

• SEC. 105. OFFICE OF DOMESTIC PEACE ACTIVITIES.

• SEC. 106. OFFICE OF INTERNATIONAL PEACE ACTIVITIES.

• SEC. 107. OFFICE OF TECHNOLOGY FOR PEACE.

• SEC. 108. OFFICE OF ARMS CONTROL AND DISARMAMENT.

• SEC. 109. OFFICE OF PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE AND NONVIOLENT CONFLICT RESOLUTION.

• SEC. 110. OFFICE OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND ECONOMIC RIGHTS.

• SEC. 111. INTERGOVERNMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL ON PEACE AND NONVIOLENCE.

• SEC. 112. CONSULTATION REQUIRED.

• SEC. 113. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.

TITLE II--ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS AND TRANSFERS OF AGENCY FUNCTIONS

• SEC. 201. STAFF.

• SEC. 202. TRANSFERS.

• SEC. 203. CONFORMING AMENDMENTS.

TITLE III--FEDERAL INTERAGENCY COMMITTEE ON PEACE AND NONVIOLENCE

• SEC. 301. FEDERAL INTERAGENCY COMMITTEE ON PEACE AND NONVIOLENCE.

TITLE IV--ESTABLISHMENT OF PEACE DAY

• SEC. 401. PEACE DAY

[dean_acheson]

Our tax dollars at work!

[SUBMAN1]

Democrats are whacked. Why are Assault Rifles always on the table as the great evil of the world? Crap! If you want to kill someone, use a shotgun since its much more effctive!!

After Katrina, I personally think everyone should have an Assualt Rifle.

-S

[ASWnut101]

I've got one.

[elite_hunter_sh3]

asw: what kind??

i got me a 7.62mm yugoslav Ak 47 with FMJ rounds(back home) stupid canadian gun laws are so strict, but o well

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

I've got one.

Good to hear. Buy a couple more! I plan to.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

asw: what kind??

i got me a 7.62mm yugoslav Ak 47 with FMJ rounds(back home) stupid canadian gun laws are so strict, but o well

How are those Yugo's? Mine is Bulgarian - milled receiver.

-S

[geetrue]

You can't have half of the United States with guns and half of the United States without guns ... The western part of the United States will never yield to gun control.

I was working in Arizona (I use to work) ten years ago and I saw men wearing guns in holsters. So I stop by a local gun store/pawn shop, a little of both, in Bullhead City, Arizona ... I asked, "Hey whats the law around here about carrying guns"?

The man behind the counter said, "Oh, it's legal as all get out" He went on to inform me that you can carry a gun, you can't conceal a gun, you have to carry it in plain view, like on the front seat of your car, loaded or unloaded, you can carry it in a holster, but it can't be loaded if you go into a business like a bar or a gun store ... lol

Ain't no story either ... maybe Iceman can back me up on this. That's why I say at least half of America is never going to give in to gun control.

In California you can transport a gun, but the bullets have to be in the trunk and the gun in the glove box or even the other way around or a locked box as long as the two aren't together.

[fatty]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

After Katrina, I personally think everyone should have an Assualt Rifle.

Agreed, personally I was disappointed that the looters couldn't down any of the rescue helicopters. Better luck next time.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by geetrue

You can't have half of the United States with guns and half of the United States without guns ... The western part of the United States will never yield to gun control.

I was working in Arizona (I use to work) ten years ago and I saw men wearing guns in holsters. So I stop by a local gun store/pawn shop, a little of both, in Bullhead City, Arizona ... I asked, "Hey whats the law around here about carrying guns"?

The man behind the counter said, "Oh, it's legal as all get out" He went on to inform me that you can carry a gun, you can't conceal a gun, you have to carry it in plain view, like on the front seat of your car, loaded or unloaded, you can carry it in a holster, but it can't be loaded if you go into a business like a bar or a gun store ... lol

Ain't no story either ... maybe Iceman can back me up on this. That's why I say at least half of America is never going to give in to gun control.

In California you can transport a gun, but the bullets have to be in the trunk and the gun in the glove box or even the other way around or a locked box as long as the two aren't together.

You live in Walla Walla, so go get a permit. As long as you're clean and lack a criminal background (They have to get FBI approval), you should be issued one in a matter of weeks.

-S

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by fatty

Agreed, personally I was disappointed that the looters couldn't down any of the rescue helicopters. Better luck next time.

I hope you're joking. THat is a sick thought.

These same guys will also come into your house at night, kill you, rape your wife. My thoughts come from the idea of olden days - THis is the first generation that grew up in the Western world without firearms or sword and we are paying that cost dearly. One only needs look at a country like the UK to see the future.

-S

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

These same guys will also come into your house at night, kill you, rape your wife. My thoughts come from the idea of olden days - THis is the first generation that grew up in the Western world without firearms or sword and we are paying that cost dearly. One only needs look at a country like the UK to see the future.

-S

You left out steal your guns, too ... with or without your being at home

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

How are those Yugo's? Mine is Bulgarian - milled receiver.

-S

and

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

asw: what kind??

i got me a 7.62mm yugoslav Ak 47 with FMJ rounds(back home) stupid canadian gun laws are so strict, but o well

Same here, but it's a Romainian Made. Called the GP WASR-10 (which is just a AK-47). Got Semi-Jacketed rounds. Imported by Century Arms Int. Here's a pic:



But I got a composite (olive drab) stock, a composite (olive drab) front handguard, and 2 black steel mags (shown in the above pic), and finally a 30-round clear composite mag. This is exactly what it looks like right now (but the composites are in olive drab, not the tan shown here):


http://www.tapco.com/show_image.aspx...5-3de9ded562be

Also got a Mossberg 500 (12 Ga.).