Harpoon 3 Advanced Naval Warfare (matrixgame)

TarJak · 02-22-07, 04:25 AM

I've got to say the price tage is a tad ridiculous at AU$69 I don't see any but an absolute Harpoon nutter taking the bait on this one. If they were more reaslistic at about AU$5 I reckon they might get some more business.

Herman · 02-22-07, 06:30 AM

I don't disagree, but everyone can make their own evaluation of cost/benefit.

Here's some other discussion threads regarding the value of ANW. You can check out:

$50 is it worth it?

There are also a number of issues that were introduced when the game was released.

Known Harpoon 3.7 [ANW] Issues

JALU3 · 08-26-07, 03:53 PM

I Loved Harpoon 2 when it was out . . . but $50, really? Hmm . . . that's a little suspect.

But I gotta wonder . . . has anyone written up of scenario of Isreal v Hezbollah for Harpoon 3 or any other wargaming program . . . or for that matter a India v China . . . or a India V Pakistan . . . or China v Japan . . . or China V Australia+Singapore+Malaysia+Indonesia+Philippines (not that they have anything to contribute)

Herman · 08-27-07, 05:37 AM

Yes. Several scenarios have been written on those situations you mention. Check out the entire list on Harpoon Scenarios Posted on GameSquad

Some that come to mind are:

The 2nd Lebanese War battleset
4 scenarios in that one and Hezbollah plays a side

21st Century Ocean Wars Battleset
Has a few situations like PRC vs India/Thailand

Several of the scenarios in SE Asia with Australia/Indonesia/Philippines from the original H2 release have been re-built for the PlayersDB

120 more scenarios for the Harpoon 3 Players Database!

If you can tolerate the current state of the game, you might want to try them out.

* Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues

Blacklight · 09-01-07, 05:02 PM

The patch that they made for it fixed a lot of issues with it. Yes, still some issues remain, but about 99% of them won't even be noticed by your average player. Only a really serious naval fanatic who knows a LOT LOT about platforms and their systems would notice. There aren't any real game crippling bugs in ther for the average gamer.
Also, Matrix is continueing work on the bugs that the community discovers. They seem to be a good company with a really good habit of keeping in touch with the community about stuff like that. The only drawbacks is with a game this complex behind the scenes, it takes a long time to bug test the new patches.

Harpoon III Advanced Naval Warfare is one of my favorite sims. I've found no major crippling bugs in my play.

Herman · 09-02-07, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacklight

The patch that they made for it fixed a lot of issues with it. Yes, still some issues remain, but about 99% of them won't even be noticed by your average player. Only a really serious naval fanatic who knows a LOT LOT about platforms and their systems would notice. There aren't any real game crippling bugs in there for the average gamer.

I disagree with that. There are still a few CTD-type bugs in the game like:

Fly off the world CTD
http://tinyurl.com/2lvrk5

CTD when Database button is depressed
http://tinyurl.com/2yq6u9

Players may not think that they are experiencing bugs, but they are simply encountering them unwittingly since many of them affect the AI and its behaviour.

For example, you might find that you can easily penetrate AI defences and you could think that you must be one heckuva sub driver, right? Wrong. The AI is simply so crippled that even when it has you detected and locked up, it won't fire. You may think of yourself as Otto Kretchmer, but it simply isn't so.

Unknown Sub contacts not attacked
http://tinyurl.com/25865g

Or, you could blast the heck out of a CVBG without ever knowing that the reason why it is so easy to 'kill' it is because the AI simply cannot launch planes in its own defence.

All strikers fail to launch
http://tinyurl.com/2gynbl

Just because a player isn't aware that he is encountering a bug doesn't mean that the bug doesn't affect him.

02-22-07, 06:30 AM	#2
Herman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,187 Downloads: 273 Uploads: 1046	I don't disagree, but everyone can make their own evaluation of cost/benefit. Here's some other discussion threads regarding the value of ANW. You can check out: $50 is it worth it? There are also a number of issues that were introduced when the game was released. Known Harpoon 3.7 [ANW] Issues __________________ Guidelines for ScenShare scenarios: 1) Enjoy creating it 2) Enjoy playing it 3) Enjoy sharing it 4) Enjoy helping others create them The PlayersDB - The Harpoon Community's #1 Choice. Harpoon3 Frequently Asked Questions

08-26-07, 03:53 PM	#3
JALU3 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: 11SMS 98896 10565 Posts: 756 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I Loved Harpoon 2 when it was out . . . but $50, really? Hmm . . . that's a little suspect. But I gotta wonder . . . has anyone written up of scenario of Isreal v Hezbollah for Harpoon 3 or any other wargaming program . . . or for that matter a India v China . . . or a India V Pakistan . . . or China v Japan . . . or China V Australia+Singapore+Malaysia+Indonesia+Philippines (not that they have anything to contribute) __________________ "The Federation needs men like you, doctor. Men of conscience. Men of principle. Men who can sleep at night... You're also the reason Section Thirty-one exists -- someone has to protect men like you from a universe that doesn't share your sense of right and wrong." -Sloan, Section Thirty-One Last edited by JALU3; 08-26-07 at 04:07 PM.

08-27-07, 05:37 AM	#4
Herman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,187 Downloads: 273 Uploads: 1046	Harpoon 3 scenarios for the PlayersDB Yes. Several scenarios have been written on those situations you mention. Check out the entire list on Harpoon Scenarios Posted on GameSquad Some that come to mind are: The 2nd Lebanese War battleset 4 scenarios in that one and Hezbollah plays a side 21st Century Ocean Wars Battleset Has a few situations like PRC vs India/Thailand Several of the scenarios in SE Asia with Australia/Indonesia/Philippines from the original H2 release have been re-built for the PlayersDB 120 more scenarios for the Harpoon 3 Players Database! If you can tolerate the current state of the game, you might want to try them out. * Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues __________________ Guidelines for ScenShare scenarios: 1) Enjoy creating it 2) Enjoy playing it 3) Enjoy sharing it 4) Enjoy helping others create them The PlayersDB - The Harpoon Community's #1 Choice. Harpoon3 Frequently Asked Questions

09-01-07, 05:02 PM	#5
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	The patch that they made for it fixed a lot of issues with it. Yes, still some issues remain, but about 99% of them won't even be noticed by your average player. Only a really serious naval fanatic who knows a LOT LOT about platforms and their systems would notice. There aren't any real game crippling bugs in ther for the average gamer. Also, Matrix is continueing work on the bugs that the community discovers. They seem to be a good company with a really good habit of keeping in touch with the community about stuff like that. The only drawbacks is with a game this complex behind the scenes, it takes a long time to bug test the new patches. Harpoon III Advanced Naval Warfare is one of my favorite sims. I've found no major crippling bugs in my play. __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"

02-22-07, 04:25 AM	#1
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I've got to say the price tage is a tad ridiculous at AU$69 I don't see any but an absolute Harpoon nutter taking the bait on this one. If they were more reaslistic at about AU$5 I reckon they might get some more business.