Would you try it, enter the Inland sea?

Sailor Steve · 02-21-07, 05:45 PM

Inland Sea, Sea of Japan; both are shallow, both are dangerous. I gladly went there in SH1 (actually I had no choice-you're teleported to your patrol zone) and did my best. If assigned to go there in SH4, you bet I'll swallow my fears and die like a man (hopefully no one will hear me cry "mommy").

CCIP · 02-21-07, 06:11 PM

I'd take a crack at it for the challenge. Japanese ASW doesn't impress me, though I sincerely hope the game won't give it to me as the main patrol grid anyway

hyperion2206 · 02-21-07, 06:14 PM

If I was ordered to go there I would do it, but if I had the choice: NO WAY!!!!! It's to shallow and you can bet that i'll be heavily guarded by escorts, planes and not to meantion the mine fields.

Boris · 02-21-07, 06:18 PM

I would stupidly go and do it, probably more than once, and typically I would'n't learn from my mistakes either. Just like almost every career I ever did in SH3 ended in the channel or Scapa flow.

CCIP · 02-21-07, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

I would stupidly go and do it, probably more than once, and typically I would'n't learn from my mistakes either. Just like almost every career I ever did in SH3 ended in the channel or Scapa flow.

Haha, the forbitten fruit appeal! :p

Even if the SHIV map has it marked as 'dangerous area' and even if they put a "yankee go home" sign on the shore, people will only want to go into it more. Just note the number of English Channel threads on the SHIII forum

geetrue · 02-21-07, 06:31 PM

Even a lowly mine sweeper can be the end to your patrol, but near the end of the war it would be fun to give it a try ...
especially Tokyo Bay is crying out to me.

Like Steve said in SH1 it was a regular thing and it was easy to hide from the enemy in SH1 or just sink them and move on ...

I hope AI has two levels ...

Bum · 02-22-07, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by geetrue

Even a lowly mine sweeper can be the end to your patrol, but near the end of the war it would be fun to give it a try ...
especially Tokyo Bay is crying out to me.

Like Steve said in SH1 it was a regular thing and it was easy to hide from the enemy in SH1 or just sink them and move on ...

I hope AI has two levels ...

Yeah, I agree. Going into a shallow inlet should be very risky, the player should not take it litely.

badaboom · 02-21-07, 06:39 PM

Would I go?..........NO!I'll go.....ROUGUE SUB......and wait,hunt,stalk in the deep,I'll keep my crew alive and return them safely to there sweethearts!!.....after the war everyone will forget I disobeyed a direct order and I'll excape a court marshall once again!!HAha

......I think I need to get out more

Drokkon · 02-21-07, 09:43 PM

On route to the inland sea we encountered 4 tankers strung out in a line sailing towards Truk. We fired all 26 topedoes at them not scoring a single hit. You need to fix these things. Requesting a resupply at Pearl.

dean_acheson · 02-23-07, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

I would stupidly go and do it, probably more than once, and typically I would'n't learn from my mistakes either. Just like almost every career I ever did in SH3 ended in the channel or Scapa flow.

LOL at that. That is a familliar story! It's always, this time I'll try it this way, and I'm sure that I'll make it....

I can see going into the inland see, if only to pretend I'm Mush for abit....

nattydread · 02-23-07, 10:07 PM

Looks like a little blue suppository.

La Perouse(sp?) Strait was a common way of getting into the Sea of Japan. It was mined, but the depths were for submerged vessels. Surface vessels coul dget through with no problem if I remember correctly. This usually meant a surfaced night run, it only took part of a night at flank to get through I think.

I believe they suspect Wahoo had been damaged from a depth charging she took a day or so before. I believe I remember there neing a IJN report that stated they saw an oil trail(or maybe Capt. O'Kane of the USS Tang speculatd this). She either hit a mine trying to slip through wounded and submerged or was caught on the surface trying to limp out. I believe IJN reports 2 or 3 DD/DEs or something catching her...but this is all from memory. I need to go back and read it again.

There were two sinkings that choke me up everytime, the lose of the Wahoo and Capt Morton & crew, and the sinking of the USS Tang by a here own circling torpedo. It was the last fish, at night, on the surface against a wounded ship they were trying to finish off before going home. He survived only because the explosion threw him clear from the bridge/conning tower, i think only couple others survived too.

nattydread · 02-22-07, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

I'd take a crack at it for the challenge. Japanese ASW doesn't impress me, though I sincerely hope the game won't give it to me as the main patrol grid anyway

You might want to re-think that, some of the best of the best were sunken by the Japanese in the Sea of Japan. Shallow waters can be a pain, but aircraft still have an advantage. Yeah the radar detection onboard helps, but it didnt always work and had flaws...especially early versions. If your radar detection takes damage or goes out for whatever reason, expect a hard ride home. One lucky sighting by a plane, and a stealthy dive from out of the sun and your pig boat is bacon.

No good skipper with a reputable kill tally did it totally safe, they took risks. They went in when there were escoets, they stayed in there until the last possible minute, they had to take risks to be effective and those risks sometimes got them killed, sometimes it was a lucky shot by the enemy(sometime it was their own fish), or some missed an assignment, or was too slow in reacting or fell victim to the green/rookie mistakes on the planes, the bubble, or just plain complacency, etc.

They enemy doesnt always get you, sometimes you get yourself...or atleast help the enemy out.

So if your any good(as in getting kills) your going to likly get in trouble and you'll begin to respect those IJN ASW vessels...and their bomb toting birds!

02-21-07, 05:45 PM	#1
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Inland Sea, Sea of Japan; both are shallow, both are dangerous. I gladly went there in SH1 (actually I had no choice-you're teleported to your patrol zone) and did my best. If assigned to go there in SH4, you bet I'll swallow my fears and die like a man (hopefully no one will hear me cry "mommy"). __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-21-07, 06:11 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I'd take a crack at it for the challenge. Japanese ASW doesn't impress me, though I sincerely hope the game won't give it to me as the main patrol grid anyway __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-21-07, 06:14 PM	#3
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	If I was ordered to go there I would do it, but if I had the choice: NO WAY!!!!! It's to shallow and you can bet that i'll be heavily guarded by escorts, planes and not to meantion the mine fields. __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

02-21-07, 06:31 PM	#6
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Even a lowly mine sweeper can be the end to your patrol, but near the end of the war it would be fun to give it a try ... especially Tokyo Bay is crying out to me. Like Steve said in SH1 it was a regular thing and it was easy to hide from the enemy in SH1 or just sink them and move on ... I hope AI has two levels ... __________________

02-21-07, 09:43 PM	#9
Drokkon Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 90 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	On route to the inland sea we encountered 4 tankers strung out in a line sailing towards Truk. We fired all 26 topedoes at them not scoring a single hit. You need to fix these things. Requesting a resupply at Pearl. __________________

02-21-07, 06:18 PM	#4
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	I would stupidly go and do it, probably more than once, and typically I would'n't learn from my mistakes either. Just like almost every career I ever did in SH3 ended in the channel or Scapa flow.

02-21-07, 06:39 PM	#8
badaboom Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 359 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Would I go?..........NO!I'll go.....ROUGUE SUB......and wait,hunt,stalk in the deep,I'll keep my crew alive and return them safely to there sweethearts!!.....after the war everyone will forget I disobeyed a direct order and I'll excape a court marshall once again!!HAha ......I think I need to get out more

02-23-07, 10:07 PM	#11
nattydread Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 498 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Looks like a little blue suppository. La Perouse(sp?) Strait was a common way of getting into the Sea of Japan. It was mined, but the depths were for submerged vessels. Surface vessels coul dget through with no problem if I remember correctly. This usually meant a surfaced night run, it only took part of a night at flank to get through I think. I believe they suspect Wahoo had been damaged from a depth charging she took a day or so before. I believe I remember there neing a IJN report that stated they saw an oil trail(or maybe Capt. O'Kane of the USS Tang speculatd this). She either hit a mine trying to slip through wounded and submerged or was caught on the surface trying to limp out. I believe IJN reports 2 or 3 DD/DEs or something catching her...but this is all from memory. I need to go back and read it again. There were two sinkings that choke me up everytime, the lose of the Wahoo and Capt Morton & crew, and the sinking of the USS Tang by a here own circling torpedo. It was the last fish, at night, on the surface against a wounded ship they were trying to finish off before going home. He survived only because the explosion threw him clear from the bridge/conning tower, i think only couple others survived too.