688I vs. Collins Class SS - Any tips?

Molon Labe · 02-18-07, 10:13 AM

You're not picking up a Collins on passive unless you run him over or he steps on the gas. Using LW/Ami will help make him more detectable if he does put on the speed (+13 NL instead of +5 when at flank).

Active sonar is your best friend when you're taking an SSN against an SSK with no friends. The Collins is going to be the toughest SSK though, because it has a good sonar and carries the ADCAP instead of crappy short-ranged torpedoes. But, you can take advantage of the fact that the AI doesn't resteer its torps.

So go ahead and ping away, and be ready to get shot at after you do. When you get shot at, clear datum until the torp is no threat, then close a bit and repeat the process until you're close enough to shoot. You might be able to get him on the TA when he starts running, so keep an eye out for that happening too.

LuftWolf · 02-18-07, 10:23 AM

Actually, the Collins is going to be LESS detectible in LWAMI up to about 10kts, because the base PSL has been lowered to 53, as opposed to the stock 60.

Cheers,
David

Molon Labe · 02-18-07, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LuftWolf

Actually, the Collins is going to be LESS detectible in LWAMI up to about 10kts, because the base PSL has been lowered to 53, as opposed to the stock 60.

Cheers,
David

Which is why I said it would help when he's running. :p

Dr.Sid · 02-18-07, 02:22 PM

Yes .. passive torpedoes are good on surface ships. Even better than wakehomers. Wakehomers tends to follow even quite old wakes, thus attacking ships you didn't want to attack. Kilo Demo mission is nice example of that.

I didn't try them on subs, but I guess they'll work well especially against human. It won't ping so they won't be alerted that much and most humans only drops active CMs.

02-18-07, 10:13 AM	#1
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	You're not picking up a Collins on passive unless you run him over or he steps on the gas. Using LW/Ami will help make him more detectable if he does put on the speed (+13 NL instead of +5 when at flank). Active sonar is your best friend when you're taking an SSN against an SSK with no friends. The Collins is going to be the toughest SSK though, because it has a good sonar and carries the ADCAP instead of crappy short-ranged torpedoes. But, you can take advantage of the fact that the AI doesn't resteer its torps. So go ahead and ping away, and be ready to get shot at after you do. When you get shot at, clear datum until the torp is no threat, then close a bit and repeat the process until you're close enough to shoot. You might be able to get him on the TA when he starts running, so keep an eye out for that happening too. __________________

02-18-07, 10:23 AM	#2
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Actually, the Collins is going to be LESS detectible in LWAMI up to about 10kts, because the base PSL has been lowered to 53, as opposed to the stock 60. Cheers, David __________________ LW

02-18-07, 02:22 PM	#4
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Yes .. passive torpedoes are good on surface ships. Even better than wakehomers. Wakehomers tends to follow even quite old wakes, thus attacking ships you didn't want to attack. Kilo Demo mission is nice example of that. I didn't try them on subs, but I guess they'll work well especially against human. It won't ping so they won't be alerted that much and most humans only drops active CMs.