Death of SHIII?

Takeda Shingen · 02-11-07, 05:27 PM

I'll be 'transfering' to SHIV. After nearly six years, I am kind of burnt out on the Atlantic.

DanCanovas · 02-11-07, 05:36 PM

Tokyo here we come!!

Kpt. Lehmann · 02-11-07, 05:42 PM

For those interested in U-boats and the Battle of the Atlantic... I think that Sh3 will be the place to be for several years to come.

There may be another U-boat sim in production somewhere right now... but it will have a MILLION miles to go to address things as comprehensively as SH3 plus the big mods... even if a hypothetical U-boat sim is under construction now and assuming it has one or two superior elements.

That being said... I look forward to SH4 as a distraction from all the work we've done modding SH3... but only as a "break" from SH3. In some ways, I'm still "just discovering" SH3. It will be my turn to enjoy SH3 soon enough.

Even though testing new stuff is always cool... it is no substitute for simply playing the game.

We have some final targets to hit with GWX before it is playtime.

Gatos are cool...

U-boats are cooler IMHO.

flintlock · 02-11-07, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

After nearly six years, I am kind of burnt out on the Atlantic.

That is a long virtual career, that's for certain. To be honest though, as long as the technology (PC hardware/software) continues to improve and evolve and software developers are able to exploit said advances to create new and immersive gaming experiences, I don't think I'll ever tire of the Atlantic theatre (or any theatre for that matter). That said, I've definitely had enough of the current SH3 to put it out to pasture.

AnthonyKennethDonaldCalve · 02-11-07, 06:01 PM

Don't you think it a little odd that just as Ubisoft are releasing sh4 with much vaunted graphical improvements, the same treatment is being done to enemy engaged, commanche v hokum (the forthcoming title being imaginatively called enemy engaged 2). If you take a look over at sim hq you will find that again the core game has not been changed but the graphics have been given a face lift. A new trend for sim publishers? Shurely shome mishtake.....

bigboywooly · 02-11-07, 06:03 PM

Wow thats some nickname

Torplexed · 02-11-07, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Wow thats some nickname

Yeah...I don't think I've ever seen a nick squash the text area over to the right like that. :hmm:

02-12-07, 01:26 PM

I wont buy SHIV, I am too much a "Grauer Wolf", to command a US sub...

Rykaird · 02-12-07, 02:21 PM

SHIII is the most immersive sim I've ever played (I was up to 3am last night, sending Tommy a love note written on the side of a torpedo, while listening to German drinking music from the 40's on the gramophone). But I do find that graphics help with immersion, so that's the single biggest draw for SHIV for me. But I have my doubts.

The thing I love most about SHIII/GWX isn't the act of plotting on the nav table or lining up torpedo shots - it's that I am a U-Boat Kapitan-Lieutenant. I know the "happy days" of 1939/1940 are over. I know my side is going to lose the war. I know I'm almost certain to die. I know my country is led by madmen. But it's still my country, and it's still my duty. It's a hard life and a short one, but there's a beautiful, noble, doomed poetry about it.

I don't get any sense of that fighting on the US side, where I have every confidence we'll win, that our cause is just, our leaders are good folks, and that I have some hope I'll make it out alive. As a US Navy skipper, I'm merely trying to be excellent at what amounts to a job. It just seems kind of, well, ordinary.

We'll see. I'm going to give it a shot, because it looks so pretty.

Iron Budokan · 02-12-07, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rykaird

SHIII is the most immersive sim I've ever played (I was up to 3am last night, sending Tommy a love note written on the side of a torpedo, while listening to German drinking music from the 40's on the gramophone). But I do find that graphics help with immersion, so that's the single biggest draw for SHIV for me. But I have my doubts.

The thing I love most about SHIII/GWX isn't the act of plotting on the nav table or lining up torpedo shots - it's that I am a U-Boat Kapitan-Lieutenant. I know the "happy days" of 1939/1940 are over. I know my side is going to lose the war. I know I'm almost certain to die. I know my country is led by madmen. But it's still my country, and it's still my duty. It's a hard life and a short one, but there's a beautiful, noble, doomed poetry about it.

I don't get any sense of that fighting on the US side, where I have every confidence we'll win, that our cause is just, our leaders are good folks, and that I have some hope I'll make it out alive. As a US Navy skipper, I'm merely trying to be excellent at what amounts to a job. It just seems kind of, well, ordinary.

We'll see. I'm going to give it a shot, because it looks so pretty.

I agree the mystique surrounding the u-boats far outstrips the more prosaic American counterparts in the Pacific. Having said that (and not wishing to take anything away from the brave men who died on both sides) I will still buy SH4 when it comes out.

But I see myself returning again and again to SH3 in the future....

Jimbuna · 02-12-07, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rykaird

SHIII is the most immersive sim I've ever played (I was up to 3am last night, sending Tommy a love note written on the side of a torpedo, while listening to German drinking music from the 40's on the gramophone). But I do find that graphics help with immersion, so that's the single biggest draw for SHIV for me. But I have my doubts.

The thing I love most about SHIII/GWX isn't the act of plotting on the nav table or lining up torpedo shots - it's that I am a U-Boat Kapitan-Lieutenant. I know the "happy days" of 1939/1940 are over. I know my side is going to lose the war. I know I'm almost certain to die. I know my country is led by madmen. But it's still my country, and it's still my duty. It's a hard life and a short one, but there's a beautiful, noble, doomed poetry about it.

I don't get any sense of that fighting on the US side, where I have every confidence we'll win, that our cause is just, our leaders are good folks, and that I have some hope I'll make it out alive. As a US Navy skipper, I'm merely trying to be excellent at what amounts to a job. It just seems kind of, well, ordinary.

We'll see. I'm going to give it a shot, because it looks so pretty.

I agree the mystique surrounding the u-boats far outstrips the more prosaic American counterparts in the Pacific. Having said that (and not wishing to take anything away from the brave men who died on both sides) I will still buy SH4 when it comes out.

But I see myself returning again and again to SH3 in the future....

very well put kaleun

CaptainAsh · 02-12-07, 03:51 PM

It s also a matter of game style...
The main purpose of SHIII is to hunt merchant, expecialy in convoy and to avoid being bashed my the big watching dog

If I m correct SHIV will be a lot more like subs against warship on battle field... it s not the same atmosphere at all...

Jimbuna · 02-12-07, 04:08 PM

To put it in one of many ways:

The U-boats never sank more than approx. 3% of the available Allied merchant tonnage

The US nigh on sank all (80%+) of the Japanese available merchant tonnage

DivingDuck · 02-13-07, 03:36 AM

Regards,
DD

Nikita · 02-13-07, 07:31 AM

My computer prefers the cold waters of Atlantic

02-11-07, 05:36 PM	#2
DanCanovas Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 778 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Tokyo here we come!! __________________

02-11-07, 05:42 PM	#3
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,995 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	For those interested in U-boats and the Battle of the Atlantic... I think that Sh3 will be the place to be for several years to come. There may be another U-boat sim in production somewhere right now... but it will have a MILLION miles to go to address things as comprehensively as SH3 plus the big mods... even if a hypothetical U-boat sim is under construction now and assuming it has one or two superior elements. That being said... I look forward to SH4 as a distraction from all the work we've done modding SH3... but only as a "break" from SH3. In some ways, I'm still "just discovering" SH3. It will be my turn to enjoy SH3 soon enough. Even though testing new stuff is always cool... it is no substitute for simply playing the game. We have some final targets to hit with GWX before it is playtime. Gatos are cool... U-boats are cooler IMHO. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

02-11-07, 06:03 PM	#6
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02-12-07, 04:08 PM	#13
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,661 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	To put it in one of many ways: The U-boats never sank more than approx. 3% of the available Allied merchant tonnage The US nigh on sank all (80%+) of the Japanese available merchant tonnage __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-13-07, 03:36 AM	#14
DivingDuck Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 902 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 1	Regards, DD __________________ http://www.filefront.com/user/DivingDuck \| OpenHatch_V3_RH (SHIII)

02-11-07, 05:27 PM	#1
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I'll be 'transfering' to SHIV. After nearly six years, I am kind of burnt out on the Atlantic.

02-11-07, 06:01 PM	#5
AnthonyKennethDonaldCalve Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Don't you think it a little odd that just as Ubisoft are releasing sh4 with much vaunted graphical improvements, the same treatment is being done to enemy engaged, commanche v hokum (the forthcoming title being imaginatively called enemy engaged 2). If you take a look over at sim hq you will find that again the core game has not been changed but the graphics have been given a face lift. A new trend for sim publishers? Shurely shome mishtake.....

02-12-07, 01:26 PM	#8
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I wont buy SHIV, I am too much a "Grauer Wolf", to command a US sub...

02-12-07, 02:21 PM	#9
Rykaird Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 356 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	SHIII is the most immersive sim I've ever played (I was up to 3am last night, sending Tommy a love note written on the side of a torpedo, while listening to German drinking music from the 40's on the gramophone). But I do find that graphics help with immersion, so that's the single biggest draw for SHIV for me. But I have my doubts. The thing I love most about SHIII/GWX isn't the act of plotting on the nav table or lining up torpedo shots - it's that I am a U-Boat Kapitan-Lieutenant. I know the "happy days" of 1939/1940 are over. I know my side is going to lose the war. I know I'm almost certain to die. I know my country is led by madmen. But it's still my country, and it's still my duty. It's a hard life and a short one, but there's a beautiful, noble, doomed poetry about it. I don't get any sense of that fighting on the US side, where I have every confidence we'll win, that our cause is just, our leaders are good folks, and that I have some hope I'll make it out alive. As a US Navy skipper, I'm merely trying to be excellent at what amounts to a job. It just seems kind of, well, ordinary. We'll see. I'm going to give it a shot, because it looks so pretty.

02-12-07, 03:51 PM	#12
CaptainAsh Machinist's Mate Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 128 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	It s also a matter of game style... The main purpose of SHIII is to hunt merchant, expecialy in convoy and to avoid being bashed my the big watching dog If I m correct SHIV will be a lot more like subs against warship on battle field... it s not the same atmosphere at all...

02-13-07, 07:31 AM	#15
Nikita Electrician's Mate Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Under the sea Posts: 140 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	My computer prefers the cold waters of Atlantic