Death of SHIII? - Page 2

High Voltage · 02-11-07, 01:12 PM

GWX is still relatively new to me and I know the message boards will be filled with bugs and complaints the first few months of SH4's release. Ubi will probably have to release a patch or two and I just don't want to get discouraged too early, so I'm going to leave it to others to wrinkle out the mistakes, and only then will I be willing to join the hunt!

OneTinSoldier · 02-11-07, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Von Taticus

SH4 Seems more to me as a Super Mod than a new package.

Most of the things I would have liked to have seen (more compartments and improved damage model not are there, in fact they are being cut back "simplified" is the term used.

The mods made to SH3 by the fantastic mod teams would appear to be better that the SH4 proposed spec. IMHO
I'll wait for a better Altantic sim, if it ever occurs.

Steve

I agree. Like Neal said, don't underestimate the 'atmosphere' that compartments such as the Radio/Sonar/Captain's Bed compartment adds to the game. I really love that part! I would like to have at least seen a Torpedo Room compartment added, instead they are being cut back. And I too would have also expected to see improved damage modeling.

But I will of course watch and see what people have to say about the new version after it's released before making a real decision on whether I would consider it a worthy successor and/or buy it.

Torplexed · 02-11-07, 01:45 PM

Well....I think as we can see SH3 will still be alive and well after the release of SH4. Now if they would just release an Destroyer Command 2. I wouldn't mind trying the Atlantic from a different angle again as a escort or destroyer captain. Hopefully, they'll have all nationalities this time and not just the USN.

I think modeling all interior compartments would be out in that one. Surface ships have too many. Just give me a bridge.

Myxale · 02-11-07, 01:48 PM

I know that SH4 will be pretty nice and modders will do the other mojo to further it, and that i won't mind to dip in to sink som Japanese Cargo!
But I also know that i will go back to the atlantic soon enough since I can't live without my IXB and the Tommies -who make my simming live a hell!
May it be with Sh3 or an mod by SH4.
For me this is a win-win scenario!
:hmm:

dsvet91 · 02-11-07, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

I think people who are more interested in the Atlantic War will graviatate back to it eventually if they do pick up SH4. I always found all naval warfare in WW2 interesting but just like on land some have strong preferences as to which theater. (Ever meet an Eastern Front buff?

) I also believe someday there will be a more comprehensive Atlantic U-Boat sim. The market is there.

I will stick to SHIII modded up to GWX, as that is all I play now, except for a few hours every now and then, that I spend playind Combat Mission, Barbarossa to Berlin. (Ost Front Buff checking in.)

Torplexed · 02-11-07, 01:52 PM

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I will stick to SHIII modded up to GWX, as that is all I play now, except for a few hours every now and then, that I spend playind Combat Mission, Barbarossa to Berlin. (Ost Front Buff checking in.)

Yeah..you Ost Front buffs. Western Europe and Northern Africa are for wimps.

Boris · 02-11-07, 01:57 PM

I want to still play SH3 after SH4 is released but I'm afraid I'm going to get sucked in. I'm a sucker for eye candy, and I'll find that I won't be able to play SH3 because it doesn't have all the cool new stuff of SH4.
It'll be refreshing to play in a new theatre, but like most here I'm a U-boat fan, and will likely assist in any effort to expand SH4 into the Atlantic.
Fingers crossed... I hope it's possible.

mr chris · 02-11-07, 02:04 PM

The main problem for me is that i like to be in a target rich enviroment and the US subs did not have this the Germans in the Atlantic now thats another matter.

STEED · 02-11-07, 02:07 PM

SH3 to die, never I tell you.

Hey I still got SH1 and still play it.

Torplexed · 02-11-07, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

SH3 to die, never I tell you.

Hey I still got SH1 and still play it.

Me too. But's it hard to enjoy without that external view cam that debuted with SH2.

DanCanovas · 02-11-07, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

I want to still play SH3 after SH4 is released but I'm afraid I'm going to get sucked in. I'm a sucker for eye candy, and I'll find that I won't be able to play SH3 because it doesn't have all the cool new stuff of SH4.
It'll be refreshing to play in a new theatre, but like most here I'm a U-boat fan, and will likely assist in any effort to expand SH4 into the Atlantic.
Fingers crossed... I hope it's possible.

im with you Boris, im a sucker for eye candy too and I think SH3 will look a bit dull in comparison but no less fun. Im a big atlantic fan but SH4 gives me opportunity to learn new stuff which is great. I think we're split into 2 Groups, Sub fanatics (those who will play any sub sim asap regardless of location...im in this group) and those that are only really interested in the Atlantic. One thing is that Sh3 will gradually fade as SH4 modding takes over and offers new opportunities.

ReallyDedPoet · 02-11-07, 02:53 PM

I will play both, I am sure SH4 more when it comes out, but SH3 will stay on the hard-drive. I prefer the Atlantic Theatre

Iron Budokan · 02-11-07, 03:20 PM

I have no intention of deleting SH3 from my HD.

GlobalExplorer · 02-11-07, 03:25 PM

The big big question is if an SH4 Atlantic Mod is possible. With the big obstacle being the sub interiors. If it materializes, SHIII will be dead soon.

If not, a lot of players will gravitate back to SHIII, most of them will probably have both games running.

Also don't forget that these type of games tend to get better and better with mods, so I expect that Sh4 will have a lot of deficits in comparison to SHIII GWX. So, until there are comparable mods for Sh4, it will not be as simple as higher=better.

I am still looking forward to playing in the pacific, but I am sure it will miss the "Das Boot" feeling.

GE

Sailor Steve · 02-11-07, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Von Taticus

The mods made to SH3 by the fantastic mod teams would appear to be better that the SH4 proposed spec. IMHO

:rotfl:

Transparent water.

Vastly improved crew management, including rotating watch bills.

I won't knock the mods for SHIII, because they're all wonderful, but SH4 looks to be a lot more than just a 'supermod'.

I said it on another similar thread, and I'll say it again: I love WWII subs, period. I'll play SH4, but I won't retire SHIII until the next big u-boat sim comes along. I'll play them both side-by-side, and I'll be happier than all of ya!:p

02-11-07, 01:12 PM	#16
High Voltage Chief Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U-33. Depth Charges...sinking.. Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	GWX is still relatively new to me and I know the message boards will be filled with bugs and complaints the first few months of SH4's release. Ubi will probably have to release a patch or two and I just don't want to get discouraged too early, so I'm going to leave it to others to wrinkle out the mistakes, and only then will I be willing to join the hunt! __________________ The new-moon night is black as ink. Off Hatteras the tankers sink. While sadly Roosevelt counts the score-- Some fifty thousand tons--by MOHR

02-11-07, 01:45 PM	#18
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Well....I think as we can see SH3 will still be alive and well after the release of SH4. Now if they would just release an Destroyer Command 2. I wouldn't mind trying the Atlantic from a different angle again as a escort or destroyer captain. Hopefully, they'll have all nationalities this time and not just the USN. I think modeling all interior compartments would be out in that one. Surface ships have too many. Just give me a bridge. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

02-11-07, 01:48 PM	#19
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	I know that SH4 will be pretty nice and modders will do the other mojo to further it, and that i won't mind to dip in to sink som Japanese Cargo! But I also know that i will go back to the atlantic soon enough since I can't live without my IXB and the Tommies -who make my simming live a hell! May it be with Sh3 or an mod by SH4. For me this is a win-win scenario! :hmm: __________________ SH3+GWX SH5+WoS Still Sailing....still Deep

02-11-07, 02:04 PM	#23
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	The main problem for me is that i like to be in a target rich enviroment and the US subs did not have this the Germans in the Atlantic now thats another matter. __________________

02-11-07, 02:07 PM	#24
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	SH3 to die, never I tell you. Hey I still got SH1 and still play it. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

02-11-07, 01:57 PM	#22
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	I want to still play SH3 after SH4 is released but I'm afraid I'm going to get sucked in. I'm a sucker for eye candy, and I'll find that I won't be able to play SH3 because it doesn't have all the cool new stuff of SH4. It'll be refreshing to play in a new theatre, but like most here I'm a U-boat fan, and will likely assist in any effort to expand SH4 into the Atlantic. Fingers crossed... I hope it's possible.

02-11-07, 02:53 PM	#27
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,888 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	I will play both, I am sure SH4 more when it comes out, but SH3 will stay on the hard-drive. I prefer the Atlantic Theatre __________________ Back in the Day

02-11-07, 03:20 PM	#28
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I have no intention of deleting SH3 from my HD. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

02-11-07, 03:25 PM	#29
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	The big big question is if an SH4 Atlantic Mod is possible. With the big obstacle being the sub interiors. If it materializes, SHIII will be dead soon. If not, a lot of players will gravitate back to SHIII, most of them will probably have both games running. Also don't forget that these type of games tend to get better and better with mods, so I expect that Sh4 will have a lot of deficits in comparison to SHIII GWX. So, until there are comparable mods for Sh4, it will not be as simple as higher=better. I am still looking forward to playing in the pacific, but I am sure it will miss the "Das Boot" feeling. GE __________________