The term "Japs"

[timmyg00]

Originally Posted by flintlock

The term may be shortened version of Japanese and a nickname, however, to Japanese people: it's a disparaging and offensive slang term.

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I'm not a person who goes around using such labels as a matter of course... I think it's crass; but personally, I'm pretty tired of hearing about what I can and cannot say about any given group of people.

I think some people take such things too seriously. I could, this very second, decide that the term "Yank" was offensive to me, and then start demanding that people stop using it. The moderators would be pretty busy, I dare say

I won't make such a decision... it's just a word. Words only have power over you if you allow it.

TG

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[Finback]

I appreciate the various viewpoints listed here. What I appreciate more is how they are all treated with respect.

Hat's Off to the Subsim Community!!!

[Sailor Steve]

To a lot of people it is highly offensive, or it wouldn't even be a topic of discussion.

Do those who defend its use vehemently also advocate free use of the fabled 'N'-word?

It probably won't offend a lot of gamers, especially those of the younger generations, but it really doesn't help to say "I'll say what I want and you can't stop me".

[Kresge]

I think most of the members of this board have enough sense and manners to use terms like Jap, Kraut, Yank, etc. in the context of simming/gaming and not as an insult directed at another member. This is one of the better discussion forums out there on the internet in terms of respect from what I have seen. I do not forsee too many problems arising from the slang used around here and believe that if somebody was to direct derogatory terms towards somebody intentionally then they would feel the wrath of a good number of other members. What we have to keep in mind, as most of us know, is that we're talking not just about a game but using it as a way to live history.

You're all a good bunch of mariners!

[JSF]

It's a game........................It's a game.....................It's a game........................It's a game................................It's agame........................It's a game................................It's a game..................You see, I have to keep reminding myself over and over.......OK...everyone take a deep breath and let's say it together.......ready....It's a gaaaaaame.....I feel better already.......howzbout you.......

As you can see I used a ridicules way to begin this post in what I know will be a vein attempt to draw a parallel to the ridicules extremism of fettering member's choice of slag in reference of real life situations depicted thru an extremely high polycount game simply known as SH4. I can appreciate everyones sensitivity but for crying out loud....Donate more of your time to charatible organizations if you feel that insecure.

Please indulge me here for a few moments folks. This is a forum about WAR GAMES. We in this forum are entertained by the notion of controling vehicles of war. Which in real life as we all know where intended to destroy things and kill people in the process. If that doesn't offend you...using vernacular consistant with the time period should be a walk in the park.

I look at some of the phrases and sayings some of you have as part of your avatars or names only to be amused that you are sometimes the ones clammering about affending others. For the most part it is quite obvious the vast majority of the members here are higly educated and apparently come from solid backgrounds. Why else would you carry on about slang. On another thought if you are this sensitive why on earth would you wrap your self up in a game which glorfies wars, the destruction of property even cities and the killing of people in particualr. It just doesn't weigh out gang.

This is a great forum with great participants. And, I enjoy reading the many contributions which obvoiusly are the result of many hours of research. Sharing this info has enlightened me on a broad girth of issues. But I am somewhat perplexed over the notion of becoming self absorbed in a war game then turn around and get all sappy on us.

It creats a creditbility gap that makes the Grand Canyon look like a hairline fracture.

Keep those cards and letters coming.............

[flyingdane]

Originally Posted by JSF

It's a game........................It's a game.....................It's a game........................It's a game................................It's agame........................It's a game................................It's a game..................You see, I have to keep reminding myself over and over.......OK...everyone take a deep breath and let's say it together.......ready....It's a gaaaaaame.....I feel better already.......howzbout you.......

As you can see I used a ridicules way to begin this post in what I know will be a vein attempt to draw a parallel to the ridicules extremism of fettering member's choice of slag in reference of real life situations depicted thru an extremely high polycount game simply known as SH4. I can appreciate everyones sensitivity but for crying out loud....Donate more of your time to charatible organizations if you feel that insecure.

Please indulge me here for a few moments folks. This is a forum about WAR GAMES. We in this forum are entertained by the notion of controling vehicles of war. Which in real life as we all know where intended to destroy things and kill people in the process. If that doesn't offend you...using vernacular consistant with the time period should be a walk in the park.

I look at some of the phrases and sayings some of you have as part of your avatars or names only to be amused that you are sometimes the ones clammering about affending others. For the most part it is quite obvious the vast majority of the members here are higly educated and apparently come from solid backgrounds. Why else would you carry on about slang. On another thought if you are this sensitive why on earth would you wrap your self up in a game which glorfies wars, the destruction of property even cities and the killing of people in particualr. It just doesn't weigh out gang.

This is a great forum with great participants. And, I enjoy reading the many contributions which obvoiusly are the result of many hours of research. Sharing this info has enlightened me on a broad girth of issues. But I am somewhat perplexed over the notion of becoming self absorbed in a war game then turn around and get all sappy on us.

It creats a creditbility gap that makes the Grand Canyon look like a hairline fracture.

Keep those cards and letters coming.............

What you said

[hyperion2206]

Originally Posted by JSF

It's a game........................It's a game.....................It's a game........................It's a game................................It's agame........................It's a game................................It's a game..................You see, I have to keep reminding myself over and over.......OK...everyone take a deep breath and let's say it together.......ready....It's a gaaaaaame.....I feel better already.......howzbout you.......

As you can see I used a ridicules way to begin this post in what I know will be a vein attempt to draw a parallel to the ridicules extremism of fettering member's choice of slag in reference of real life situations depicted thru an extremely high polycount game simply known as SH4. I can appreciate everyones sensitivity but for crying out loud....Donate more of your time to charatible organizations if you feel that insecure.

Please indulge me here for a few moments folks. This is a forum about WAR GAMES. We in this forum are entertained by the notion of controling vehicles of war. Which in real life as we all know where intended to destroy things and kill people in the process. If that doesn't offend you...using vernacular consistant with the time period should be a walk in the park.

I look at some of the phrases and sayings some of you have as part of your avatars or names only to be amused that you are sometimes the ones clammering about affending others. For the most part it is quite obvious the vast majority of the members here are higly educated and apparently come from solid backgrounds. Why else would you carry on about slang. On another thought if you are this sensitive why on earth would you wrap your self up in a game which glorfies wars, the destruction of property even cities and the killing of people in particualr. It just doesn't weigh out gang.

This is a great forum with great participants. And, I enjoy reading the many contributions which obvoiusly are the result of many hours of research. Sharing this info has enlightened me on a broad girth of issues. But I am somewhat perplexed over the notion of becoming self absorbed in a war game then turn around and get all sappy on us.

It creats a creditbility gap that makes the Grand Canyon look like a hairline fracture.

Keep those cards and letters coming.............

I think everybody is just so sensitive because you've got to be it today. You say something and somebody gets offended and hell brakes lose.
That reminds of one of the Scrubs episodes:

Dr. Kelso: Dr. Dorian, I have kept my mouth shut about all the recent sexual harassment complaints because I don't think it's fair to punish a man for making small talk...or, say, asking his secretary just once to dress up as a geisha girl and call him Kelso-san....

:rotfl:

[Ducimus]

http://www.iceboxman.com/carlin/pael.php#track14

[Abd_von_Mumit]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

http://www.iceboxman.com/carlin/pael.php#track14

Oh man... Thanks for that link! Great piece of text there!

[JSF]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

http://www.iceboxman.com/carlin/pael.php#track14

U da man to...or is it also.....can't decide these days of such uncertainty......

btw....Not to offend anyone here but Ducimus (aka Da Man) has provided us with a link which could possibly be the end-all, be-all to life's questions.....I thank you Sir.

[irish1958]

Racism=War
I order to get 18+/- year old people to kill other 18+/- people, it is necessary to give them a reason to hate.
This then becomes much easier when some of your buddies get killed which reinforces the hate.

Personally, I never want to use a term another person finds offensive; unfortunately, I sometimes do.

[flyingdane]

Originally Posted by hyperion2206

I think everybody is just so sensitive because you've got to be it today. You say something and somebody gets offended and hell brakes lose.
That reminds of one of the Scrubs episodes:

Dr. Kelso: Dr. Dorian, I have kept my mouth shut about all the recent sexual harassment complaints because I don't think it's fair to punish a man for making small talk...or, say, asking his secretary just once to dress up as a geisha girl and call him Kelso-san....

:rotfl:

Nope, There senitive because it's about us subs and not there all mighty 7cs or 9bs, god -for- bid.. that someone other than the germans made a great sub during ww2.

[Iron Budokan]

I honestly do not think any sensitivity (of what we are talking about) stems from that.

[DaMaGe007]

Im against political correctness, I think it breeds ignorance and makes an issue out of racism/sexism whether there is an issue or not. I use racist/sexist remarks in good fun and as far as im concerned its the intention behind the remarks that needs to be taken into concideration. That being said on the internet I tend to "try" to be PC for several reasons.

1, You are missing the all important "Tone of Voice" and "Body Language"

2, Its just too much of a Pain to keep explaining to Intollerant PC People, the truth behind your comments.

Funny that Political correctness is supposed to be about tollerance, but they arent very tollerant of non politicly correct people, which is still bigotry towards a certain type of person.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by JSF

ridicules...vein...ridicules...thru...affending

Okay, since we're not worrying about what we say and how it affects others...

The words are

1) Ridiculous

2) Vain

3) Through

4) Offending

I also dislike so-called "political correctness", but on the other hand it doesn't take any effort at all to avoid pejorative and insulting terms. Using such terms in the name of "not being told what to do" is both childish and arrogant. I thoroughly dislike terrorists, but I don't make a habit of calling all Arabs "ragheads" or "towelheads".

When I was involved with killing them I did tend to refer to Vietnamese as "gooks", "slants" and "slopes". I don't anymore, even in fun. If you want to call the enemy "Japs" or "Nips" in your patrol reports and stories, that makes perfect sense, as it fits the context of the times. On the other hand, using those terms in your everyday posts is offensive, and you should try to avoid them where possible.