Soooo...... Who's gonna MG the survivors - Page 6

JSF · 02-04-07, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Boris

This Mush Morton guy sounds like a dick

He who lives in a glass house....should not cast stones.

JU_88 · 02-04-07, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Boris

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Originally Posted by Dowly

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Originally Posted by JU_88

I wont MG them.....

Ill torpedo them instead....... MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! After all the Japanese DDs wont be taking any prisoners when they sink my boat. :rotfl:

The reality is the survivors are a bunch of polygons, I just cant seriously apply these levels of morality and political correctness over killing something that isnt dead or alive in the first place.

Its a game.

Agreed 100%

If I would apply moral and political correctness to all the games I play, I would be playing only Chess... maybe..

Morality and PC are two different things. Personally, I challenge myself to do the right thing in any game I play. I believe it is a reflection on one's own personality, keeps you sane, and prevents you from becoming a victim of gaming.

Im the opposite! I like to do things in games that i would NEVER do in reality, its more interesting for me that way.

JSF · 02-04-07, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Subnuts

You know what I should be able to do?

Pull up to a Japanese fishing boat, hand the sole female crewmember $20, and do the deed with her. This automatically restores your hull integrity to 100% (you see your sub rocking as this happens.) Afterwards, you can run over the fishing boat and get your money back! :rotfl:

U da man........LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

hyperion2206 · 02-04-07, 10:35 AM

Although I participated in this discussion I've got a certain feeling that it has become obsolete. You know why? I've seen the layout of the box the game is sold in and there it states the game is for children of 7 years or older. I don't think that they would sell that game to 7 year olds if you could gun down survivors (no matter if they're armed or not).
Here's a link (just click on the first pic for enlargement): http://www.amazon.de/Ubisoft-Silent-...8&s=videogames

Boris · 02-04-07, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JSF

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Originally Posted by Boris

This Mush Morton guy sounds like a dick

He who lives in a glass house....should not cast stones.

Yeah yeah, all I knew about the guy was that he gunned down some innocent survivors. I've read up on him since.

Safe-Keeper · 02-04-07, 01:52 PM

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Morality and PC are two different things.

He knows that, just like common politeness and PC are two different things. It's just that it's way too convenient these days to pull the "excaggerated PC" card whenever someone reacts to something you've said. Not likely to go away any time soon.

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He who lives in a glass house....should not cast stones.

Really, Boris, how dare you talk after you gunned down those life-boats with your submarine off... er, waitaminute...
:p

Onkel Neal · 02-04-07, 03:45 PM

This thread has been pwned by Subnuts

bookworm_020 · 02-04-07, 07:10 PM

Depends on the situation. If it's a merchant or tanker I leave the crew alone. If it's a troop transport and it's swiming distance to the beach, I might just take the shot. It happened in real life, I wonder if we will get orders to do it in game???:hmm:

flintlock · 02-04-07, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

This thread has been pwned by Subnuts

That is one angry submariner.

DaMaGe007 · 02-05-07, 01:20 AM

In order to adequatly roleplay being a good submarine captain that doesnt shoot survivors, survivors must be shootable. I will be very disapointed with ghost liferafts and seagulls that cant be shot. Here is hoping the developers dont give in to the nancy boys that cant hanndle pixle death for moral reasons.

To simulate correctly you just cant stop bullets from hitting things its an imersion killer, and affects the gameplay with people sending torpedos straight through ghost liferafts to finish off the ship.

stinger503 · 02-05-07, 03:38 AM

The "humanists" in here really need to lighten up. Seriously in Silent Hunter III you could make the case that you were sinking unarmed merchants and you were supporting Hitler and the holocaust. Of course that isn't true. The point of simulations isn't to become another person but to do things you wouldn't normally do, i.e. COMMAND A SUBMARINE! Thus in real life I do not command a submarine and thus do not shoot survivors of vessels during WWII. However if I am playing a game I would like to have both of these options open to me as they are things I don't do in real life but would like to do in a fictional patrol where no harm is done to anyone.

Konovalov · 02-05-07, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Subnuts

I'd prefer to save my ammunition for airplanes, barges, and other small craft, thank you very much.

Exactly.

mookiemookie · 02-05-07, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

In order to adequatly roleplay being a good submarine captain that doesnt shoot survivors, survivors must be shootable.

I completely disagree. If you're not going to shoot them, it makes no difference if they're shootable or not.

CptSimFreak · 02-05-07, 01:49 PM

No need to shoot them or pick them up. Use them as a bait…..

GlobalExplorer · 02-05-07, 02:07 PM

Like everone I will do it maybe once or twice when I am bored.

In real life - real *******s from all sides, like Morton, Mears and Lemp did it, and I think they all should have been shot for that. I mean all of them who shot at lifeboats.

That's why I voted "No, are you crazy!"

For me it's not the question if you do it at times in the game, but whether you do it with a maniac grin in your face.

Let's behave like gentlemen in the game.

GE

View Poll Results: To MG or not to MG
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No , are you crazy	98	62.82%
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02-04-07, 10:35 AM	#79
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Although I participated in this discussion I've got a certain feeling that it has become obsolete. You know why? I've seen the layout of the box the game is sold in and there it states the game is for children of 7 years or older. I don't think that they would sell that game to 7 year olds if you could gun down survivors (no matter if they're armed or not). Here's a link (just click on the first pic for enlargement): http://www.amazon.de/Ubisoft-Silent-...8&s=videogames __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

02-04-07, 03:45 PM	#82
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	This thread has been pwned by Subnuts __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-04-07, 07:10 PM	#83
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Depends on the situation. If it's a merchant or tanker I leave the crew alone. If it's a troop transport and it's swiming distance to the beach, I might just take the shot. It happened in real life, I wonder if we will get orders to do it in game???:hmm: __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

02-05-07, 03:38 AM	#86
stinger503 Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 49 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The "humanists" in here really need to lighten up. Seriously in Silent Hunter III you could make the case that you were sinking unarmed merchants and you were supporting Hitler and the holocaust. Of course that isn't true. The point of simulations isn't to become another person but to do things you wouldn't normally do, i.e. COMMAND A SUBMARINE! Thus in real life I do not command a submarine and thus do not shoot survivors of vessels during WWII. However if I am playing a game I would like to have both of these options open to me as they are things I don't do in real life but would like to do in a fictional patrol where no harm is done to anyone. __________________ I was told we'd cruise the seas, for american gold, we'd fire no guns, shed no tears. Now I'm a broken man on a halifax pier. The Last of Barrett's Privateers.- Stan Rogers

02-05-07, 01:20 AM	#85
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In order to adequatly roleplay being a good submarine captain that doesnt shoot survivors, survivors must be shootable. I will be very disapointed with ghost liferafts and seagulls that cant be shot. Here is hoping the developers dont give in to the nancy boys that cant hanndle pixle death for moral reasons. To simulate correctly you just cant stop bullets from hitting things its an imersion killer, and affects the gameplay with people sending torpedos straight through ghost liferafts to finish off the ship.

02-05-07, 01:49 PM	#89
CptSimFreak Frogman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 291 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No need to shoot them or pick them up. Use them as a bait…..

02-05-07, 02:07 PM	#90
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Like everone I will do it maybe once or twice when I am bored. In real life - real *******s from all sides, like Morton, Mears and Lemp did it, and I think they all should have been shot for that. I mean all of them who shot at lifeboats. That's why I voted "No, are you crazy!" For me it's not the question if you do it at times in the game, but whether you do it with a maniac grin in your face. Let's behave like gentlemen in the game. GE __________________