sub fires

codmander · 02-04-07, 04:40 PM

hmm fire mod instead of leaky pipe?

02-04-07, 04:48 PM

Don't know about battery fires but deadly chlorine gas was formed when salt water got to the batteries.

02-04-07, 05:19 PM

Yes, SH2 had U-boat fires I seem to recall. I was just wondering if German equipment was better sealed. I never heard of German U-boat fires caused by storms and waves. I do know that American military equipment did not get really tight in specs until the rocket-pad-launch disasters in the 1950s. But Germany was always known for tight specs.

Finback · 02-04-07, 05:22 PM

Well, I'm not sure the Tang's story is a great representation of poor electronics... After all, she had just been sunk by her own torpedo so a few other problems were to be expected

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That said--The reason Germans didn't smoke when submerged was mainly due to concerns with chlorine gas, a problem for all diesel/electrics. One reason the U-boats may have had less problems in the control room is they usually kept the hatch shut in heavy seas whereas US crews would slam the hatch if they saw a wave coming.

Not saying you're wrong. Just that I've been reading sub history since I was 8 (which about 110 years ago) and I've never seen a reference to this subject regarding what nationality had more electical issues.

Good Subject.

:hmm:

johan_d · 02-04-07, 05:36 PM

"In our eyes, the German boy of the future must be slim and slender, as fast as a greyhound, tough as leather and hard as Krupp steel"

Thats summon its all up.. lol

firepower41 · 02-04-07, 06:14 PM

Even today, American submarines have fires all the time. I can't name any names, but I know for a fact that on certain attack submarines fires have gotten so bad the boat has had to surface on tour (a big uh-uh in nuclear submarines). German Uboots had fire problems for sure, and fire problems in any submarine are an embarrassment to the navy to which it happens. Thus I suspect the lack of proof of Uboot fires has far more to do with German classification and document destruction for propaganda purposes than magical German anti-fire engineering.

The two greatest enemies of submariners have always been fire and water. If either is in the compartments, the ship is only so far from becoming a casket.

Sheerin · 02-04-07, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by firepower41

Even today, American submarines have fires all the time. I can't name any names, but I know for a fact that on certain attack submarines fires have gotten so bad the boat has had to surface on tour (a big uh-uh in nuclear submarines). German Uboots had fire problems for sure, and fire problems in any submarine are an embarrassment to the navy to which it happens. Thus I suspect the lack of proof of Uboot fires has far more to do with German classification and document destruction for propaganda purposes than magical German anti-fire engineering.

The two greatest enemies of submariners have always been fire and water. If either is in the compartments, the ship is only so far from becoming a casket.

Sadly we Canadians have recent experience with deadly fires caused by waves. Its been what? 36 months since the HMCS Chicoutimi incident...

02-04-07, 05:19 PM	#3
Wave Skipper Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	SH2 Yes, SH2 had U-boat fires I seem to recall. I was just wondering if German equipment was better sealed. I never heard of German U-boat fires caused by storms and waves. I do know that American military equipment did not get really tight in specs until the rocket-pad-launch disasters in the 1950s. But Germany was always known for tight specs.

02-04-07, 04:40 PM	#1
codmander Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: cape cod mass. Posts: 678 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	hmm fire mod instead of leaky pipe?

02-04-07, 04:48 PM	#2
von Zelda Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Don't know about battery fires but deadly chlorine gas was formed when salt water got to the batteries.

02-04-07, 05:22 PM	#4
Finback Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, I'm not sure the Tang's story is a great representation of poor electronics... After all, she had just been sunk by her own torpedo so a few other problems were to be expected . That said--The reason Germans didn't smoke when submerged was mainly due to concerns with chlorine gas, a problem for all diesel/electrics. One reason the U-boats may have had less problems in the control room is they usually kept the hatch shut in heavy seas whereas US crews would slam the hatch if they saw a wave coming. Not saying you're wrong. Just that I've been reading sub history since I was 8 (which about 110 years ago) and I've never seen a reference to this subject regarding what nationality had more electical issues. Good Subject. :hmm:

02-04-07, 05:36 PM	#5
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	"In our eyes, the German boy of the future must be slim and slender, as fast as a greyhound, tough as leather and hard as Krupp steel" Thats summon its all up.. lol

02-04-07, 06:14 PM	#6
firepower41 Seaman Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 35 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Even today, American submarines have fires all the time. I can't name any names, but I know for a fact that on certain attack submarines fires have gotten so bad the boat has had to surface on tour (a big uh-uh in nuclear submarines). German Uboots had fire problems for sure, and fire problems in any submarine are an embarrassment to the navy to which it happens. Thus I suspect the lack of proof of Uboot fires has far more to do with German classification and document destruction for propaganda purposes than magical German anti-fire engineering. The two greatest enemies of submariners have always been fire and water. If either is in the compartments, the ship is only so far from becoming a casket.