Ennemy Detection factors?

[Jimbuna]

1. Yes (because of light condintions)
2. Yes
3. Debatable

[CptGrayWolf]

So I take it the moon phases/detection is modeled in stock 1.4? Impressive!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by CptGrayWolf

So I take it the moon phases/detection is modeled in stock 1.4? Impressive!

No....that's not what I meant

It is probably easier to get spotted in lighter conditions...however, I don't think the game takes this into account because your lookouts have the same 'cat like' vision during darkness as they have in daytime.

[High Voltage]

jimbuna,
why "debatable" for number 3? I was under the impression that while a straight downwards sonar ping has limited detection range , if you are in the immediate vicinity (say 2km) of a warship and try to find depth under keel you are broadcasting a loud "more Wasserbomben please"
Could you please expand on this?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by High Voltage

jimbuna,
why "debatable" for number 3? I was under the impression that while a straight downwards sonar ping has limited detection range , if you are in the immediate vicinity (say 2km) of a warship and try to find depth under keel you are broadcasting a loud "more Wasserbomben please"
Could you please expand on this?

To the best of my knowledge nobody has yet been able to give a definitive answer as to whether the depth under keel sounding is detectable by ships
IMHO I believe it should be

[robbo180265]

Only today I was diving, trying to evade a destroyer. I realised I was in fairly shallow water and "pinged" to see how deep it was. The little submarine(the noise detector-goes red when you're in trouble)went red and the destroyer made a bee line for me.

I say that I was about 2k away from him and fortunatly I did manage to shrug him off.

Good job I did ping, there was only about 40m under me

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by robbo180265

Only today I was diving, trying to evade a destroyer. I realised I was in fairly shallow water and "pinged" to see how deep it was. The little submarine(the noise detector-goes red when you're in trouble)went red and the destroyer made a bee line for me.

I say that I was about 2k away from him and fortunatly I did manage to shrug him off.

Good job I did ping, there was only about 40m under me

Your 'noise detector' is not 100% accurate in determining whether or not you have been detected It is only a helpful indicator to tell you that your emitting a level of noise that may be detectable to others.

[CptGrayWolf]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

No....that's not what I meant

It is probably easier to get spotted in lighter conditions...however, I don't think the game takes this into account because your lookouts have the same 'cat like' vision during darkness as they have in daytime.

Ok moon phase is not modeled, but just the moon in general yes (sub is more detectable if there's a moon)?

[Iron Budokan]

Yes, the bigger the phase of the moon the easier it is for escorts to spot you. I remember in the old Aces of the Deep you could circumvent this a bit by surfacing with the moon on one side of the convoy and you on the other...harder for them to spot you than you and the moon backlighting you on the same side of the convoy. SH3 only models the ambient light.

One thing I've wondered. Let's say there's a full moon in the sky but the clouds are completely overcast. Does SH3 take into account the overcast nature of the sky or does the code see "Full Moon" and go only by that? :hmm: