LuftWolf and Amizaur's Realism Mod Poll #13: The Stallion

LuftWolf · 02-03-07, 05:29 PM

The equivalence:

Mk46=UMGT-1=outdated, not useful in game

Mk54=APR-2E(on Stallion)=based on near-future capability, useful in game

I think it's pretty simple.

The UMGT-1 is only 3kts faster than the SW, which gives it a lethal envelope of about 200 yards or less, when dropped in an optimal position, and 0 yards (completely ineffective) if dropped behind the SW.

Cheers,
David

XabbaRus · 02-03-07, 05:38 PM

I think in terms of realism we should leave as is. The SS-N-27 ASW is more effective and my preferred loadout. If we get into second guessing possible loadouts we could stray off into Dangerous grounds.

The Akula is pretty capable and in the right hands has no problems with a Seawolf.

Probably the best thing to do is make the 53 cm a UGST as that is almost as good as an ADCAP.

LuftWolf · 02-03-07, 05:44 PM

53cm already is a UGST...

Given the fact that the SS-N-27 payload's max speed is going to be reduced to 45kts, and that is has been at 55kts in error for so long with no one saying anything, I sense the opposition to this is strictly in principle and not because of any practical consideration given the state of DW and LWAMI.

I have to think that 1/3 of people will oppose any changes that aren't written in Jane's (even though jane's can be wrong too) and 1/3 of people will oppose any improvements to Russian equipment, particularly SUBROCs, even if the balance of the changes will make both SUBROCs, when considered together, less effective.

If I don't filter those opinions out, I'm left with a confusing picture.

Cheers,
David

View Poll Results: What Should Be Done With the Stallion? (Please read post before replying!)
APR-3, Straight Runner@55kts	4	11.11%
APR-3, Circle Search Pattern@55kts	4	11.11%
APR-3, Straight Runner@65+kts	4	11.11%
APR-3, Circle Search Pattern@65+kts	7	19.44%
UGMT-1, Leave As Is Now	17	47.22%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

02-03-07, 05:38 PM	#2
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I think in terms of realism we should leave as is. The SS-N-27 ASW is more effective and my preferred loadout. If we get into second guessing possible loadouts we could stray off into Dangerous grounds. The Akula is pretty capable and in the right hands has no problems with a Seawolf. Probably the best thing to do is make the 53 cm a UGST as that is almost as good as an ADCAP. __________________

02-03-07, 05:44 PM	#3
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	53cm already is a UGST... Given the fact that the SS-N-27 payload's max speed is going to be reduced to 45kts, and that is has been at 55kts in error for so long with no one saying anything, I sense the opposition to this is strictly in principle and not because of any practical consideration given the state of DW and LWAMI. I have to think that 1/3 of people will oppose any changes that aren't written in Jane's (even though jane's can be wrong too) and 1/3 of people will oppose any improvements to Russian equipment, particularly SUBROCs, even if the balance of the changes will make both SUBROCs, when considered together, less effective. If I don't filter those opinions out, I'm left with a confusing picture. Cheers, David __________________ LW

02-03-07, 05:29 PM	#1
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The equivalence: Mk46=UMGT-1=outdated, not useful in game Mk54=APR-2E(on Stallion)=based on near-future capability, useful in game I think it's pretty simple. The UMGT-1 is only 3kts faster than the SW, which gives it a lethal envelope of about 200 yards or less, when dropped in an optimal position, and 0 yards (completely ineffective) if dropped behind the SW. Cheers, David __________________ LW