Soooo...... Who's gonna MG the survivors

Malefactor · 02-02-07, 12:36 PM

Many a time my depth charges ripped open some hapless sub driver's pressure hull in MP,while he was deep and running like scared fox from the hounds.However,if we managed to catch one on the surface though,ramming could result in survivors,albeit only temporarily.

Voted!!

hyperion2206 · 02-02-07, 01:02 PM

Well I would only gun survivors when the surwhivors are soldiers (like Mush Morton did). He killed survivors of an troop transport, saying that life boats are just smaller means of transportation an therefore fair game.

Hartmann · 02-02-07, 01:29 PM

A lot of u-boat crews were rescued by allies. i don´t see the good point of firing against survivors.

Finback · 02-02-07, 01:35 PM

Talk to most any submariner (or sailor) and they will tell you shootong survivors is simply an act of murder. Mush Morton did it and got away with it but no other skippers followed his example.

I won't do it.

Safe-Keeper · 02-02-07, 01:35 PM

No way I will gun down survivors. In fact, I highly doubt you'll be able to in the first place. And if you do, it should work like torpedoing Red Cross hospital ships in GWX - in other words, career at an end.

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Mush Morton did it and got away with it [...]

It may have prevented him from getting the Medal of Honor.

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Well I would only gun survivors when the surwhivors are soldiers (like Mush Morton did). He killed survivors of an troop transport, saying that life boats are just smaller means of transportation an therefore fair game.

Right. Good luck hitting only the soldiers in the life-boats, though. Most of the "marines" sunk by Morton were in reality POWs from India.

Boris · 02-02-07, 02:34 PM

This Mush Morton guy sounds like a dick

Subnuts · 02-02-07, 02:58 PM

I'd prefer to save my ammunition for airplanes, barges, and other small craft, thank you very much.

Safe-Keeper · 02-02-07, 03:02 PM

Yeah, I can picture the feeling of being sunk by a flight of Zeroes becuase you've expended all your machine gun ammo on innocents in life-boats, leaving you defenseless.

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This Mush Morton guy sounds like a dick

[Rigs for Crash Dive to 250 metres]

Konovalov · 02-05-07, 09:40 AM

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I'd prefer to save my ammunition for airplanes, barges, and other small craft, thank you very much.

Exactly.

Ducimus · 02-02-07, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

This Mush Morton guy sounds like a dick

From what ive read and understand, he genuinly hated the enemy (japan) with every fiber of his being.

That said, Japan as an enemy was a bit different. It's not like English/American vs Germans. Although from different countries, they share similar morals and codes of conduct.

The japanese on the otherhand, had a totally different mentality, living under the code of bushido. Surrender to a japanese was the most dishonrable thing. To surrender was to be less then human. It's not like they didnt apply a second standard to those they captured either. A japanese soldier or sailor could be expected to fight to the bitter end. They were tough, mean son's of b*tch's.

Safe-Keeper · 02-02-07, 03:15 PM

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don't wan't them nips going to another boat hauling ammo to hurt the cause

And that applies to everyone on a ship in war. Why not shoot surviving sailors from a fishing boat? After all, we don't want them to get on another vessel "hauling fish to hurt the cause", do we

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Crow · 02-02-07, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

They were tough, mean son's of b*tch's.

I'm sure when the looked into a 50 cal barrel they **** their pants like any other guy

Harry Buttle · 02-03-07, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

The japanese on the otherhand, had a totally different mentality, living under the code of bushido. Surrender to a japanese was the most dishonrable thing. To surrender was to be less then human. It's not like they didnt apply a second standard to those they captured either. A japanese soldier or sailor could be expected to fight to the bitter end. They were tough, mean son's of b*tch's.

And yet, at the end of the war, most of the Jap prison guards (who had behaved with utter brutality to their prisoners) surrendered rather than take their own lives.

They didn't live by Bushido.

JSF · 02-04-07, 08:50 AM

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This Mush Morton guy sounds like a dick

He who lives in a glass house....should not cast stones.

Boris · 02-04-07, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Boris

This Mush Morton guy sounds like a dick

He who lives in a glass house....should not cast stones.

Yeah yeah, all I knew about the guy was that he gunned down some innocent survivors. I've read up on him since.

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02-02-07, 01:02 PM	#2
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Well I would only gun survivors when the surwhivors are soldiers (like Mush Morton did). He killed survivors of an troop transport, saying that life boats are just smaller means of transportation an therefore fair game. __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

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Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	A lot of u-boat crews were rescued by allies. i don´t see the good point of firing against survivors. __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

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Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I'd prefer to save my ammunition for airplanes, barges, and other small craft, thank you very much. __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

02-02-07, 12:36 PM	#1
Malefactor Loader Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, Canada Posts: 88 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Many a time my depth charges ripped open some hapless sub driver's pressure hull in MP,while he was deep and running like scared fox from the hounds.However,if we managed to catch one on the surface though,ramming could result in survivors,albeit only temporarily. Voted!!

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Finback Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Talk to most any submariner (or sailor) and they will tell you shootong survivors is simply an act of murder. Mush Morton did it and got away with it but no other skippers followed his example. I won't do it.

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Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	This Mush Morton guy sounds like a dick