SH4 pre-order confusion

SeniorSpan · 02-01-07, 05:40 PM

Thx much for the clearification. Now it all makes sense and I pre-ordered.

Iron Budokan, this is the link to start the pre-order process

Code:

http://store.ubi.com/category.jsp?category=PC

Iron Budokan · 02-01-07, 06:30 PM

Thank you!

_Seth_ · 02-01-07, 07:54 PM

I will definitively order through Subsim. Even if i dont get the in-box extras & it takes longer to get. I think its much better to support this great website.

Ahh...Just my 2 cents..

GSpector · 02-01-07, 08:03 PM

Good question,

Will we be able to pre-order through SubSim?:hmm:

If so, when and will we have the chance to get the extras?

Jeffg · 02-01-07, 10:14 PM

I have pre-ordered through EB yesterday.
JeffG

Potoroo · 02-01-07, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffg

I have pre-ordered through EB yesterday.
JeffG

EB where and did it include the goodies?

Onkel Neal · 02-01-07, 10:20 PM

Here's the deal; in the olde days (1999-2005) Subsim made its operating revenue by selling the games. Since 2005 we have been running on two load-balanced servers most of the time and that runs me a little over $480 a month. Each month and every month. And that doesn't count the overage costs, like when I put GW and NYGM mods in main downloads and three weeks later EV1 charged my credit card $1800 for over bandwidth charges

In Jan 2006 our affiliate partner Chips and Bits went belly up. So we had to switch to Amazon and they only pay 1/2 the rate we got before. I expect most people order SH4 directly from Ubisoft, they really don't care to spend a minute thinking where they get the game from, they just want it. I can understand that. I can also understand why Ubisoft would prefer that, they probably get a bigger cut when they sell direct. And they hype all these "extras" and collector's editions to make people think they better get the game right away through them, or miss some goodies.

I'm not going to ask anyone to wait or risk missing the "extras" by buying through Subsim/Amazon. Subsim may miss a lot of sales of the biggest game in 3 years, but not much I can do about that. In fact, Amazon still does not have affilate links for the game, probably because Ubisoft told them to wait.

They do have a placeholder, here: SILENT HUNTER 4

So that tells me they may be getting ready to set up for the same preorders as Ubi. When it goes live I will shout out. If you want to order SH4 through Subsim, it is appreciated.

So, I would prefer you to make the purchase decision you are most comfortable with. Many people tell me they would rather buy the game at EB or CompUSA, or order through Ubi, and make a $5 donation to Subsim. That's cool, I just don't want someone to miss out on anything by trying to help the website.

Potoroo · 02-01-07, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

So that tells me they may be getting ready to set up for the same preorders as Ubi. When it goes live I will shout out. If you want to order SH4 through Subsim, it is appreciated.

If SubSim were to be able to offer the pre-order package currently available on Ubisoft's US online shop would you be prepared to ship outside the US/Canada? That's what's really getting up people's noses in the Ubisoft forum. It's not just that it's only available on the US site, it's also that it will not sell to people in other countries even if they were prepared to pay extra for shipping.

Onkel Neal · 02-01-07, 11:00 PM

Yeah, that's pretty screwed up, mate. I'll be honest with you, back when Chips was our affiliate, I could call the affiliate manager and get info like you're asking for. Subsim sold a lot of games for Chips. With Amazon, Subsim is a wee little fishy, they won't even talk with me

So I will try to get the info asap, I would even be happy to place orders for you and ship them to Australia, but I don't want to hold anyone up.

And to answer your question in the Ubi forum, about how Subsim gets info on SH4, I've been writing countless articles, reviews, and previews for 11 years, so my track record helps. Think about this, I wrote a preview twice as long and detailed as Gamespot but they got the 6 minute exclusive video

I think in a few weeks some people will have a chance to demo the game at an Ubi event so stay tuned.

I see the Ubi forum and Subsim forum as cousins, so anything I publish here is meant for you/them/us too. It's only a hyperlink away

cheers!

Neal

02-01-07, 05:40 PM	#1
SeniorSpan Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 56 Downloads: 128 Uploads: 0	Thx much for the clearification. Now it all makes sense and I pre-ordered. Iron Budokan, this is the link to start the pre-order process Code: http://store.ubi.com/category.jsp?category=PC

02-01-07, 06:30 PM	#2
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Thank you! __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

02-01-07, 07:54 PM	#3
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	I will definitively order through Subsim. Even if i dont get the in-box extras & it takes longer to get. I think its much better to support this great website. Ahh...Just my 2 cents.. __________________

02-01-07, 08:03 PM	#4
GSpector Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Good question, Will we be able to pre-order through SubSim?:hmm: If so, when and will we have the chance to get the extras? __________________ Specter

02-01-07, 10:20 PM	#7
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Here's the deal; in the olde days (1999-2005) Subsim made its operating revenue by selling the games. Since 2005 we have been running on two load-balanced servers most of the time and that runs me a little over $480 a month. Each month and every month. And that doesn't count the overage costs, like when I put GW and NYGM mods in main downloads and three weeks later EV1 charged my credit card $1800 for over bandwidth charges In Jan 2006 our affiliate partner Chips and Bits went belly up. So we had to switch to Amazon and they only pay 1/2 the rate we got before. I expect most people order SH4 directly from Ubisoft, they really don't care to spend a minute thinking where they get the game from, they just want it. I can understand that. I can also understand why Ubisoft would prefer that, they probably get a bigger cut when they sell direct. And they hype all these "extras" and collector's editions to make people think they better get the game right away through them, or miss some goodies. I'm not going to ask anyone to wait or risk missing the "extras" by buying through Subsim/Amazon. Subsim may miss a lot of sales of the biggest game in 3 years, but not much I can do about that. In fact, Amazon still does not have affilate links for the game, probably because Ubisoft told them to wait. They do have a placeholder, here: SILENT HUNTER 4 So that tells me they may be getting ready to set up for the same preorders as Ubi. When it goes live I will shout out. If you want to order SH4 through Subsim, it is appreciated. So, I would prefer you to make the purchase decision you are most comfortable with. Many people tell me they would rather buy the game at EB or CompUSA, or order through Ubi, and make a $5 donation to Subsim. That's cool, I just don't want someone to miss out on anything by trying to help the website. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-01-07, 10:14 PM	#5
Jeffg Exec Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ponte vedra beach,fl Posts: 249 Downloads: 1654 Uploads: 0	I have pre-ordered through EB yesterday. JeffG

02-01-07, 11:00 PM	#9
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Yeah, that's pretty screwed up, mate. I'll be honest with you, back when Chips was our affiliate, I could call the affiliate manager and get info like you're asking for. Subsim sold a lot of games for Chips. With Amazon, Subsim is a wee little fishy, they won't even talk with me So I will try to get the info asap, I would even be happy to place orders for you and ship them to Australia, but I don't want to hold anyone up. And to answer your question in the Ubi forum, about how Subsim gets info on SH4, I've been writing countless articles, reviews, and previews for 11 years, so my track record helps. Think about this, I wrote a preview twice as long and detailed as Gamespot but they got the 6 minute exclusive video I think in a few weeks some people will have a chance to demo the game at an Ubi event so stay tuned. I see the Ubi forum and Subsim forum as cousins, so anything I publish here is meant for you/them/us too. It's only a hyperlink away cheers! Neal __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web