Lesson Learned: GWX Aircraft

Captain Nemo · 01-23-07, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

After I loaded up GWX you get that option to engage or dive to scope depth. I clicked the dive to scope depth as the automatic response. At the very least my boat is diving and at that point I can hit C for crash dive if the depths are deep enough. Screw those planes...not worth the headach or taking the deep everlasting 1000 fathoms for good tour

I agree. I'm on my second patrol (1939) with GWX and when ever a plane shows up I order a crash dive if I am in deep water. Most u-boat commanders did the same in real life until 1944 when u-boat control ordered that they fight it out with their quad 20mm and 37mm flak guns on the surface. These flak guns were deemed adequate for the task but the 37mm had parts that were made of metal that corroded when it got wet so were unreliable. In the end Coastal Command were more successful at sinking u-boats than u-boats were at shooting down aircraft.

Nemo

johan_d · 01-23-07, 11:29 AM

I think the flak in GWX is toned down too much, I have tried a dozen of times, manual, or with a crew member in it, but was not able to shoot down, or hit a single plane.
But when you see them, dive is the easiest way out.

stabiz · 01-23-07, 11:31 AM

I have shot down dozens of planes in GWX, so I disagree about it being dumbed down too much. (I have been sunk a dozen times too)

johan_d · 01-23-07, 11:41 AM

Well, old man, tell me how you did it? I noticed when you keep shooting at them they dont drop bombs, but when I try to dive they feel safe and do it (again!)

Anyhow, shoot a lot on those buggers, but no flames!

Hartmann · 01-23-07, 05:46 PM

Yes is better dive. this bastards don´t worry about your flak gun.

i flyed in IL-2 sim and i know that is possible attack despite AA fire, receive some damage, and survive to return.

is possible shot down planes in GWX , you can try for example in academy mission, but be careful, they attack your boat with machine gun fire..

they killed a AA gunner in the training

Paajtor · 01-23-07, 06:25 PM

Correct..in Il2, opposite rudder while turning in always confused the flak.
If you come sliding in towards them, they have a hard time hitting.
But that's human plane vs. AI-flak.
In SH3, if you really NEED to fight with your flak, I think it's best to mann the guns yourself.
Humans have always the edge vs. AI.

theluckyone17 · 01-23-07, 08:23 PM

The IL-2 doesn't count... that Sturm' felt like a concrete bunker most of the time I was flying (sim-flying?) it. Bounce through a brick wall kind of strong. I'd have no problem facing down a single flak gun, in that. Letting off with Sturm's cannons might help out with that confidence, too.

I can't seem to hit the broad side of a barn with the flak, myself. Can't seem to get a good grip on the target's distance (lack of depth perception, maybe?). As bad as the AI might be, I'm worse.

I don't know how I managed to confuse the Mosquito with the Anson. What's the link to that high resolution dll file again?

(JK... I can use the search function, and I need to upgrade first...)

01-23-07, 11:31 AM	#3
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I have shot down dozens of planes in GWX, so I disagree about it being dumbed down too much. (I have been sunk a dozen times too) __________________

01-23-07, 05:46 PM	#5
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Yes is better dive. this bastards don´t worry about your flak gun. i flyed in IL-2 sim and i know that is possible attack despite AA fire, receive some damage, and survive to return. is possible shot down planes in GWX , you can try for example in academy mission, but be careful, they attack your boat with machine gun fire.. they killed a AA gunner in the training __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

01-23-07, 06:25 PM	#6
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	Correct..in Il2, opposite rudder while turning in always confused the flak. If you come sliding in towards them, they have a hard time hitting. But that's human plane vs. AI-flak. In SH3, if you really NEED to fight with your flak, I think it's best to mann the guns yourself. Humans have always the edge vs. AI. __________________

01-23-07, 11:29 AM	#2
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	I think the flak in GWX is toned down too much, I have tried a dozen of times, manual, or with a crew member in it, but was not able to shoot down, or hit a single plane. But when you see them, dive is the easiest way out.

01-23-07, 11:41 AM	#4
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	Well, old man, tell me how you did it? I noticed when you keep shooting at them they dont drop bombs, but when I try to dive they feel safe and do it (again!) Anyhow, shoot a lot on those buggers, but no flames!

01-23-07, 08:23 PM	#7
theluckyone17 Captain Join Date: May 2006 Location: Niskayuna, NY Posts: 482 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	The IL-2 doesn't count... that Sturm' felt like a concrete bunker most of the time I was flying (sim-flying?) it. Bounce through a brick wall kind of strong. I'd have no problem facing down a single flak gun, in that. Letting off with Sturm's cannons might help out with that confidence, too. I can't seem to hit the broad side of a barn with the flak, myself. Can't seem to get a good grip on the target's distance (lack of depth perception, maybe?). As bad as the AI might be, I'm worse. I don't know how I managed to confuse the Mosquito with the Anson. What's the link to that high resolution dll file again? (JK... I can use the search function, and I need to upgrade first...)