Muslim Feminism

Letum · 01-22-07, 01:07 PM

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My (limited) understanding is that after 70AD [....] of animals with "lip sacrifice" (prayer).

The laws that caused the cessation of offerings are part of the Torah, as handed down to Israel by Moses from G-d at Sinai. Jews from earlier times would have had difficulty accepting the fact that the Temple was destroyed. Once the change of situation is taken into account of, they would have understood why the changes were made and how they were based on already existing Torah laws.

Try again.

I don't understand. The torah pre-dated 70AD doesn't it? If the laws that caused the cessation of offerings where a existing part of the Torah then why where these laws not followed before 70AD?

The laws were followed. Many Torah laws are dependent on the presence of the Temple and/or of the majority of Jews worldwide residing in the land of Israel. Hence major changes in law application took place when the Temple was destroyed and the Jews went into exile.

So Judaism changed and adapted to the lack of temple?

No. Circumstances changed and existing laws kicked in. There was already a scenario in Jewish law of the lack of a Temple.

Can you please provide evidence for this "Plan B" in the event of temple destruction?

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A good modern example is the election of Turkey's first [...] Since the mid 1940's ideas about Turkey's political secularism have changed [...].

Not a peeps out of you in all of those words of Erdogan's clear veering towards Islamisization.

You can't really Islamisize a Islamic country.

Tell that to Iran. Tell that to Lebanon. Tell that to Egypt (just ask your local Muslim Brotherhood member). And if you haven't noticed, tell that to Iraq.

Gah, my bad. Of course you can Islamicize the politics of a politically secular Islamic country. Iran, Turjekistan and Egypt are good examples.
Turkey, and some other western governments are leading the world in secular politics at the moment, despite attacks to Turkey's it's secularity. Hopefully it wont be too long before Iran, Egypt and Israel drop religious law & politics all together in favor of fully secular rule.

Hopefully, it won't be too long before we witness a world perfected under G-d’s kingship - “Letaken Olam beMalchut Shaday” - as we Jews say at the conclusion of our prayers 3 times daily.

Count me outta that one! I may be Jewish by race, but that's firmly the limit. I don't want to be ruled by anyone, god or not, unless they are democratically elected and capable of reactionary decision making.