Mod request: Especially for sergbuto

chris911 · 01-19-07, 10:34 AM

It would be very nice if so. could make better models for the Large Planes in SHIII, which meet the standard of those serg used in his Air-attacks mod. Especially the Sunderland , the B24 and the Catalina are now no longer of the standard of the new planes. Maybe so knows good models of those from another game that could be modeled into SHIII.

Also with buoys now made we can maybe design some CC bases around the UK.

bigboywooly · 01-19-07, 10:46 AM

Yes thats a good point Chris

:hmm: Whats a CC base

Kpt. Lehmann · 01-19-07, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Yes thats a good point Chris

:hmm: Whats a CC base

Coastal Command I assume.

chris911 · 01-19-07, 10:55 AM

Costal Command: there were some quite near the harbours which we raid from time to time....

bigboywooly · 01-19-07, 10:56 AM

Did cross my mind but the reference to the buoy made me rethink that

chris911 · 01-19-07, 11:00 AM

they had large buoys which where used to fix the flying boats while they where not on patrol....

bigboywooly · 01-19-07, 11:35 AM

Ah I see now mate

Tikigod · 01-19-07, 12:51 PM

I'd like to see B-17's included as well. http://uboat.net/allies/aircraft/b17.htm

Would be neat to have single ones attack the uboats while others could be seen in formations heading to and from England.

GT182 · 01-19-07, 01:25 PM

B17s would be nice but it was the B-24 Privateers that attacked Greman Uboats. B17s flew bomb runs on shipping in the Pacific. As did the B-24s I believe. The USAAF in the ETO used B-17s just for bombing land targets. Tho British Bomber Command used B-17s as recon in search of Uboats.

Actually the B24s in SHIII are the wrong ones. Tha Navy's B-24 Privateers were of the single stablizer type, not the double stabilizers. It was the type B-24 Joseph P. Kennedy flew and was killed in. I'm suprised no one has realised this before now. But it really makes no difference to me which type they are in SHIII, the ones we have now work and do their job well.... sometimes too well. LOL

But please correct me if I'm wrong, as I usually can be.

I'm just remembering what I've read and from a couple of books on 17s and 24s that are in storage, and I can't get to right now.

sergbuto · 01-19-07, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chris911

It would be very nice if so. could make better models for the Large Planes in SHIII, which meet the standard of those serg used in his Air-attacks mod. Especially the Sunderland , the B24 and the Catalina are now no longer of the standard of the new planes. Maybe so knows good models of those from another game that could be modeled into SHIII.

Also with buoys now made we can maybe design some CC bases around the UK.

Yes, I have higher quality models of pretty much all the planes commonly used during WWII, except for Walrus, Wellington, and BV138. It is a matter of setting priorities on what to do first, such as adding new planes versus replacing the stock models, Allied planes versus Ais planes, etc., and actually having the time to do that.

chris911 · 01-19-07, 01:39 PM

I think both were used the PB4Y-2 was derivated from the B24 which also served as ASW plane.

GT182 · 01-19-07, 01:48 PM

Thanks Chris, that what I was referring to, the PB4Y-2, but could remember it exactly.

chris911 · 01-19-07, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sergbuto

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Originally Posted by chris911

It would be very nice if so. could make better models for the Large Planes in SHIII, which meet the standard of those serg used in his Air-attacks mod. Especially the Sunderland , the B24 and the Catalina are now no longer of the standard of the new planes. Maybe so knows good models of those from another game that could be modeled into SHIII.

Also with buoys now made we can maybe design some CC bases around the UK.

Yes, I have higher quality models of pretty much all the planes commonly used during WWII, except for Walrus, Wellington, and BV138. It is a matter of setting priorities on what to do first, such as adding new planes versus replacing the stock models, Allied planes versus Ais planes, etc., and actually having the time to do that.

You are absolutly right but of course those large planes were by far the most common ones to fight Uboats in the Atlantic and Caribbean so it would be very nice if we get good representations of those. You see many ships were added lately with GWX and the others done since the release of GWX ,so I think, that atm. better allied flying Boats the K-ship and maybe some more russian and british Uboats would nearly complete the more dangerous things a German Uboat could encounter while on patrol......
So we have a good representation of the dangers of WWII.

Tikigod · 01-19-07, 02:37 PM

Before you started typing did you read the link I posted? It lists uboats sunk by B-17's. I had a great uncle who's crew was awarded an air medal for sinking a uboat with a B-17. Yes, B-17's were primarily used for land targets. But, uboats were opportunity targets if they were spotted along the way.

The link I posted says some b-17's were also fitted with depth charges and surface radar to specifically hunt uboats. This was probably because b-17s had a greater range and could fly to places smaller bombers could not. B-24's are Liberators not Privateers. Privateers are the PB4Y-2's.

The B-24's you mention in SH3 are correct. They were land bombers as well as maritime patrol bombers that hunted uboats. B-24's were more adapted to attacking uboats but, both b-17's and b-24's attacked these vessels when the opportunity presented itself.

Here are more links that could help clarify your confusion (optional reading of course):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-24_Liberator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PB4Y_Privateer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-17

Previous link:
http://uboat.net/allies/aircraft/b17.htm (scroll down to where it says "Fighting the Uboats" as well as "Uboats sunk by this Aircraft"

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Originally Posted by GT182

B17s would be nice but it was the B-24 Privateers that attacked Greman Uboats. B17s flew bomb runs on shipping in the Pacific. As did the B-24s I believe. The USAAF in the ETO used B-17s just for bombing land targets. Tho British Bomber Command used B-17s as recon in search of Uboats.

Actually the B24s in SHIII are the wrong ones. Tha Navy's B-24 Privateers were of the single stablizer type, not the double stabilizers. It was the type B-24 Joseph P. Kennedy flew and was killed in. I'm suprised no one has realised this before now. But it really makes no difference to me which type they are in SHIII, the ones we have now work and do their job well.... sometimes too well. LOL

But please correct me if I'm wrong, as I usually can be.

I'm just remembering what I've read and from a couple of books on 17s and 24s that are in storage, and I can't get to right now.

JU_88 · 01-19-07, 03:29 PM

11 uboats were sunk by B17s so it worth having them in SH3 even though that figure pales compared to the 72 Uboats sunk by Liberators.

01-19-07, 10:34 AM	#1
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Mod request: Especially for sergbuto It would be very nice if so. could make better models for the Large Planes in SHIII, which meet the standard of those serg used in his Air-attacks mod. Especially the Sunderland , the B24 and the Catalina are now no longer of the standard of the new planes. Maybe so knows good models of those from another game that could be modeled into SHIII. Also with buoys now made we can maybe design some CC bases around the UK. __________________ HMS Ceramic ready for DL. : http://rapidshare.de/files/9536028/HMS_Ceramic.zip.html All Downloadable Ship Modells For SHIII

01-19-07, 10:46 AM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Yes thats a good point Chris :hmm: Whats a CC base __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

01-19-07, 10:55 AM	#4
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Costal Command: there were some quite near the harbours which we raid from time to time.... __________________ HMS Ceramic ready for DL. : http://rapidshare.de/files/9536028/HMS_Ceramic.zip.html All Downloadable Ship Modells For SHIII

01-19-07, 10:56 AM	#5
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Did cross my mind but the reference to the buoy made me rethink that __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

01-19-07, 11:00 AM	#6
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	they had large buoys which where used to fix the flying boats while they where not on patrol.... __________________ HMS Ceramic ready for DL. : http://rapidshare.de/files/9536028/HMS_Ceramic.zip.html All Downloadable Ship Modells For SHIII

01-19-07, 11:35 AM	#7
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Ah I see now mate __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

01-19-07, 12:51 PM	#8
Tikigod Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 777 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I'd like to see B-17's included as well. http://uboat.net/allies/aircraft/b17.htm Would be neat to have single ones attack the uboats while others could be seen in formations heading to and from England. __________________ My Current Mod Contributions for SHIII Last edited by Tikigod; 01-19-07 at 01:12 PM.

01-19-07, 01:25 PM	#9
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	B17s would be nice but it was the B-24 Privateers that attacked Greman Uboats. B17s flew bomb runs on shipping in the Pacific. As did the B-24s I believe. The USAAF in the ETO used B-17s just for bombing land targets. Tho British Bomber Command used B-17s as recon in search of Uboats. Actually the B24s in SHIII are the wrong ones. Tha Navy's B-24 Privateers were of the single stablizer type, not the double stabilizers. It was the type B-24 Joseph P. Kennedy flew and was killed in. I'm suprised no one has realised this before now. But it really makes no difference to me which type they are in SHIII, the ones we have now work and do their job well.... sometimes too well. LOL But please correct me if I'm wrong, as I usually can be. I'm just remembering what I've read and from a couple of books on 17s and 24s that are in storage, and I can't get to right now. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

01-19-07, 01:39 PM	#11
chris911 Chief Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 312 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think both were used the PB4Y-2 was derivated from the B24 which also served as ASW plane. __________________ HMS Ceramic ready for DL. : http://rapidshare.de/files/9536028/HMS_Ceramic.zip.html All Downloadable Ship Modells For SHIII

01-19-07, 01:48 PM	#12
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Thanks Chris, that what I was referring to, the PB4Y-2, but could remember it exactly. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

01-19-07, 03:29 PM	#15
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	11 uboats were sunk by B17s so it worth having them in SH3 even though that figure pales compared to the 72 Uboats sunk by Liberators.