Would you still be playing SH3 today if it wasn't for the mods?

JScones · 01-13-07, 09:01 PM

I want uncertainty. I want variation. I didn't like knowing that if "I wait for x minutes" or "If I submerge to x depth" I'd be safe.

Were it not for the modders adding this uncertainty and variation, plus fixing some annoying bugs in the process, SH3 would be sitting right beside my SH2, gathering dust.

As it is, SH3 is now up there with Panzer Elite, another game that thanks to modders (particularly Bob and crew who developed Ostpak) will never be removed from my hard drive. And it's now what, 9 years old???

melnibonian · 01-13-07, 09:17 PM

The funny thing for me is that I've never play SH1 and SH2 before. I knew about them but never tried them. When I got SH3 I was very impressed (especially with the graphics) but within 2-3 months I got very bored for the same reasons Jaesen mentioned. After that I stopped playing the game, and I concentrated on RTW/RTR and FM 2005/2006. At a later date I checked the net looking for patches to make the game a bit more challenging, and I've discovered GW and SubSim. My life will never be the same after that

AVGWarhawk · 01-13-07, 09:39 PM

The mods have completed the game in many ways and more to come. I shelved SH3 a month after I had it. Found GW 1.1 and been playing since.

stabiz · 01-13-07, 09:46 PM

I most certainly would not. GW 1.1a brought me back, GWX made me stay.

In addition we have all the fruits that are released from time to time in the candy-forum.

Letum · 01-13-07, 09:56 PM

yes, but not as much.

GT182 · 01-13-07, 10:13 PM

If it weren't for the mods that made stock SHII better I would have quit playing months ago. But seeing every couple of days a new mod that improved game play and eyecandy popped up, that alone kept me going..... and adding mods. I have over 80 mods installed in my stock SHIII alone. And, 5 DVDs totalling over 20 gigs of mods. Not all mods out there but many of them.

Now that GWX is out I've all but stopped playing stock SHIII. It's now in a backup for the time being. One day I'll get back to it just to finish the career I started. For now I've been adding mods that are safe with GWX along with the last update. And if the next update is as good as adding mods, I'll go on playing GWX until I finish a career with it. GWX has added that touch of finesse to SHIII that won't let me stop playing, it's that good. Nothing can be taken for certain in GWX. You can't and don't know what's over the horizon each day in gameplay. Besides, just reading the manual keeps you going to see what's been implemented in the expansion.

If the developers of SHIII ever play GWX they'll be amazed how much SHIII's been improved. I'm not trying to take away from RUB or NYGM as I've never run them. But from what I've heard and read, they too would have the SHIII developers saying "yes, that's what we wanted all along. All 3 expansions have put a polished touch to it."

What new expansions are over the horizon God only knows. But these and any new ones will keep sub gamers quite happy for a long long time.

irish1958 · 01-13-07, 11:45 PM

SHIII without mods is a fun game for a few weeks, but not an obsession. With the mods, starting with Berry and IUB and continuing with the NYGM and GW1 and GWX. And still some more mods come. Jaesen is right: uncertainty, variation, innovation etc. are the most important thing in a game. If the developers of SHIV have any sense, they will make that game even more able to be modeled.

Dallass_Drake · 01-14-07, 12:20 AM

I did about 45 patrols with stock SH3 and have only recently began playing it again with GWX, just about to start my 15th patrol for this spell

The Munster · 01-14-07, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JScones

I want uncertainty. I want variation. I didn't like knowing that if "I wait for x minutes" or "If I submerge to x depth" I'd be safe.

Were it not for the modders adding this uncertainty and variation, plus fixing some annoying bugs in the process, SH3 would be sitting right beside my SH2, gathering dust.

As it is, SH3 is now up there with Panzer Elite, another game that thanks to modders (particularly Bob and crew who developed Ostpak) will never be removed from my hard drive. And it's now what, 9 years old???

I played SH2 and like you, really enjoy(ed) Panzer Elite. Purchased SH3 and discovered my Computer wasn't up to the specs of the game so bought a Computer so I could run it and no problem. The downside is not being able to play Panzer Elite, Tank goes at 100 mph ! Haven't played anything else.
Correction, now play Virtual Pool [thanks to Gizzmoe's advice] as Expert Pool won't play either.
Definitely miss Panzer Elite and Expert Pool.

01-14-07, 09:18 AM

Interesting question, but I'm glad there are mods as they have proven to draw new players to the game and keep the regular players coming back for more.

I'm not sure if I would have carried on playing, the mods have most certainly extended the life span of the game. Mind you I got onto the mods band wagon quite late on (after 6 months or so of playing stock) and there was only the IUB ad IUB mods at the time - at least it goes to prove that the stock game kept me interested.

I honestly think I will still play this game in a years time along with SHIV, It will be great to have the best of both worlds playing with the USN and the Kriegsmarine.

mr chris · 01-14-07, 09:27 AM

SH3 was on the shelf then i found Subsim and then i was away with work with work for best part of a year Then when i came back i got hit in the face with GW1.1a. Now i play GWX and am happy as a pig in poo

Iron Budokan · 01-14-07, 01:36 PM

Yes, I would.

Sailor Steve · 01-14-07, 03:33 PM

I probably would. I like subsims, and it's worlds better than SHII was. That said, of course most mods make a huge difference, so I'm not complaining.

Webchessie · 01-14-07, 03:41 PM

I would be still playing stock, but probably only 1-2 times a month while looking for something else. Mods make this game a whole different experience!

My problem now is that I can't stop playing thanks to GWX and supporting MODs.

JScones · 01-15-07, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Munson

I played SH2 and like you, really enjoy(ed) Panzer Elite. Purchased SH3 and discovered my Computer wasn't up to the specs of the game so bought a Computer so I could run it and no problem. The downside is not being able to play Panzer Elite, Tank goes at 100 mph ! Haven't played anything else.

I don't have that problem and my machine is only 1 year old. :hmm: Still, have you tried:

a) running Panzer Elite in compatibility mode for Win 98?
b) d/l and trying one of the numerous "slowdown" pieces of software that mimic older systems so games like PE, and my other favourite "Lords of the Realm 2" can run as they originally did?

Checkout http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...durham_og.mspx for more info in regards to both of these points and more!

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01-13-07, 09:17 PM	#2
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The funny thing for me is that I've never play SH1 and SH2 before. I knew about them but never tried them. When I got SH3 I was very impressed (especially with the graphics) but within 2-3 months I got very bored for the same reasons Jaesen mentioned. After that I stopped playing the game, and I concentrated on RTW/RTR and FM 2005/2006. At a later date I checked the net looking for patches to make the game a bit more challenging, and I've discovered GW and SubSim. My life will never be the same after that __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

01-13-07, 09:39 PM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,291 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The mods have completed the game in many ways and more to come. I shelved SH3 a month after I had it. Found GW 1.1 and been playing since. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

01-13-07, 09:46 PM	#4
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I most certainly would not. GW 1.1a brought me back, GWX made me stay. In addition we have all the fruits that are released from time to time in the candy-forum. __________________

01-13-07, 09:56 PM	#5
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	yes, but not as much. __________________

01-13-07, 09:01 PM	#1
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I want uncertainty. I want variation. I didn't like knowing that if "I wait for x minutes" or "If I submerge to x depth" I'd be safe. Were it not for the modders adding this uncertainty and variation, plus fixing some annoying bugs in the process, SH3 would be sitting right beside my SH2, gathering dust. As it is, SH3 is now up there with Panzer Elite, another game that thanks to modders (particularly Bob and crew who developed Ostpak) will never be removed from my hard drive. And it's now what, 9 years old???

01-13-07, 10:13 PM	#6
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	If it weren't for the mods that made stock SHII better I would have quit playing months ago. But seeing every couple of days a new mod that improved game play and eyecandy popped up, that alone kept me going..... and adding mods. I have over 80 mods installed in my stock SHIII alone. And, 5 DVDs totalling over 20 gigs of mods. Not all mods out there but many of them. Now that GWX is out I've all but stopped playing stock SHIII. It's now in a backup for the time being. One day I'll get back to it just to finish the career I started. For now I've been adding mods that are safe with GWX along with the last update. And if the next update is as good as adding mods, I'll go on playing GWX until I finish a career with it. GWX has added that touch of finesse to SHIII that won't let me stop playing, it's that good. Nothing can be taken for certain in GWX. You can't and don't know what's over the horizon each day in gameplay. Besides, just reading the manual keeps you going to see what's been implemented in the expansion. If the developers of SHIII ever play GWX they'll be amazed how much SHIII's been improved. I'm not trying to take away from RUB or NYGM as I've never run them. But from what I've heard and read, they too would have the SHIII developers saying "yes, that's what we wanted all along. All 3 expansions have put a polished touch to it." What new expansions are over the horizon God only knows. But these and any new ones will keep sub gamers quite happy for a long long time. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

01-13-07, 11:45 PM	#7
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	Playing SHIII SHIII without mods is a fun game for a few weeks, but not an obsession. With the mods, starting with Berry and IUB and continuing with the NYGM and GW1 and GWX. And still some more mods come. Jaesen is right: uncertainty, variation, innovation etc. are the most important thing in a game. If the developers of SHIV have any sense, they will make that game even more able to be modeled. __________________ Irish1958

01-14-07, 12:20 AM	#8
Dallass_Drake Bosun Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 62 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I did about 45 patrols with stock SH3 and have only recently began playing it again with GWX, just about to start my 15th patrol for this spell

01-14-07, 09:18 AM	#10
Goose_green Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Interesting question, but I'm glad there are mods as they have proven to draw new players to the game and keep the regular players coming back for more. I'm not sure if I would have carried on playing, the mods have most certainly extended the life span of the game. Mind you I got onto the mods band wagon quite late on (after 6 months or so of playing stock) and there was only the IUB ad IUB mods at the time - at least it goes to prove that the stock game kept me interested. I honestly think I will still play this game in a years time along with SHIV, It will be great to have the best of both worlds playing with the USN and the Kriegsmarine.

01-14-07, 09:27 AM	#11
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	SH3 was on the shelf then i found Subsim and then i was away with work with work for best part of a year Then when i came back i got hit in the face with GW1.1a. Now i play GWX and am happy as a pig in poo __________________

01-14-07, 01:36 PM	#12
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yes, I would. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

01-14-07, 03:33 PM	#13
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I probably would. I like subsims, and it's worlds better than SHII was. That said, of course most mods make a huge difference, so I'm not complaining. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

01-14-07, 03:41 PM	#14
Webchessie Helmsman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Florida USA Posts: 102 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I would be still playing stock, but probably only 1-2 times a month while looking for something else. Mods make this game a whole different experience! My problem now is that I can't stop playing thanks to GWX and supporting MODs. __________________