Arrrrggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

IRONxMortlock · 12-23-06, 10:34 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGH HHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHH!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't get huge amounts of time to play this game so I've been on my first GWX patrol for the past week. It had been going perfectly. I found a huge convoy that I would attack, escape, track, attack, escape... over and over. I'd sunk 9 ships for 62,000 tons. It's the weekend so I just spent 5 hours on my last such run. Final run was nice and I sunk a pyro, large merchant and a medimum merchant when I ran out of torps. Decided to head back to Lorient, the gramophone is playing and the men are in high spirits.

About 80km out of the entrance I hit the minus key to take it out of TC (X2048). Hmmm, nothing happened. I start tapping at the key, nope still nothing. I start smashing on the key frantically! NOOOOO!!!!! It won't stop!! SCREECH - "your u-boat was destroyed due to a collision". *^%&*^#$#@^*$&^#@&$^@#$^!!!

It could be worse I guess as the game was saved just before I started my final attack run on the convoy but still, my monitor almost went out the bloody window.

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Blonde_angel

bigboywooly · 12-23-06, 10:39 PM

Yep my mobo is on the way out
Every so often the USB keyboard doesnt work ( nor my ethernet ) and have died a couple of times
Have a PS2 board in as well tucked away for such events now

fredbass · 12-23-06, 10:42 PM

What I think happens sometimes, is when you are at High TC and you get near objects or ships, it makes your computer work harder using more memory, and since it's already working pretty hard at 2048, it doesn't take much to get that delay. Of course it happens at slower TC's as well.

Every time my computer does that, I like to slow back down to 1x and take a look/listen to see if enemy is nearby.

Letum · 12-23-06, 10:44 PM

when your frame rate drops keys can become unresponsive. Next time just hold the key down instead of tapping it.

A bit OT, but you do know that you will never be attacked by planes at such high time compression and you will end up right next to destroyers before your TC automatically drops sometimes because the game does not have time to calculate your, or the destroyers, position often enough.

Planes will miss you sometimes at anything over x256. Destroyers will start to appear to close in fog at x1024. above x1024 destroyers will appear too close at any weather.

IRONxMortlock · 12-23-06, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

when your frame rate drops keys can become unresponsive. Next time just hold the key down instead of tapping it.

A bit OT, but you do know that you will never be attacked by planes at such high time compression and you will end up right next to destroyers before your TC automatically drops sometimes because the game does not have time to calculate your, or the destroyers, position often enough.

Planes will miss you sometimes at anything over x256. Destroyers will start to appear to close in fog at x1024. above x1024 destroyers will appear too close at any weather.

Ah, no I didn't no know that thanks.

Well, I've calmed down a bit now. Just went to reload but when I select this charcter in Commander 2.7 I can't launch the game. If I select another character, launch through commander and then load this game will everything restore OK?

What I would actually like to do is just edit my dead status and place myself and crew safely back in Lorient. Is it possible to edit some files to make this so? If so which files?
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Querti

Letum · 12-23-06, 11:20 PM

start up SH3 with out commander and load the last save you have before you died. this will automaticaly delete the 'dead' save.
Dont start a mission tho, just load the save and then exit the game. SH3 commander should have braught you back to life. (I think!)

Keep you TC at x256 if you think you are in enemy air space. Set TC to x512 if you know you wont be attacked from the air. Only use x1024 if there is no way you can be attacked from the air and you can see at least 10km (there is no fog).

Higer TC will mess up your game.

12-23-06, 11:34 PM

I'm starting to believe that the game timeing is set in hard code to do the stock
1024.
Setting to go beyond that may be a debug feature where the program "jumps frames".
So instead of a slow approach by the enemy that the program does, it may be
warping them.
Now we hit the super CPU burn that demands holding the keys down to get
any responce.
At the rate CPUs run today there is really no reason for this lag.
I wonder if a debug log is being written in memory but not dumped to a file?:hmm:
The Debug help DLL is there, but I've never seen a debug screen from SH3.

raymond6751 · 12-24-06, 06:30 AM

Anybody who uses x1024 and higher isn't a true sub-mariner.

It takes patience!

You want a speed boat, eh?

Well, soon that PT Boat game will be out and you can zoom around at high speed.

Myself, the realism is lost at high TC.

NO disrespect, mind you. Perhaps it was my own collision that convinced me to stay real and keep a look out.

Anyway, Merry Xmas.

12-24-06, 07:18 AM

am i wrong or SH3 will keep you going at high TC for some time before showing up the "WARSHIP SPOTTED!" message??? i have the impression it takes a bit to launch this message and in this small time SH3 does not crank down the time compression, but still keeps up at xwhatever, thereby making you closer to the enemy ship.

anybody else get that feeling??

merry christmas!!

Corsair · 12-24-06, 07:22 AM

Instead of using the minus key, just jump to deck view or control room view and your TC will instantly go down to 1...

I personnally never play above 128 except for long transatlantic transfers.

Audie · 12-24-06, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corsair

Instead of using the minus key, just jump to deck view or control room view and your TC will instantly go down to 1...

I personnally never play above 128 except for long transatlantic transfers.

Myself as well, and even on long transits I rarely exceed 1024 TC.

Hey, whatever happened to that guy who spent a month on SHIII patrol - REAL TIME? lol I thought I had read a year or so ago about a chap who did this.

Jimbuna · 12-24-06, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corsair

Instead of using the minus key, just jump to deck view or control room view and your TC will instantly go down to 1...

I personnally never play above 128 except for long transatlantic transfers.

Aye...'F12' be the magic key

MRV · 12-24-06, 02:05 PM

If your Keyboard doesn't react how about using the mouse to to click on that minus-icon at the lower right? Should give you a few more hours to think about a final solution

The Munster · 12-24-06, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corsair

Instead of using the minus key, just jump to deck view or control room view and your TC will instantly go down to 1...

I personnally never play above 128 except for long transatlantic transfers.

Aye...'F12' be the magic key

OOHH AARRGGHH JIM LAAAD or OCH AYE THE NOO MA WEE JIM
[I play my keyboard like a piano when it sticks in high compression but will try that in future.]

robj250 · 12-24-06, 04:58 PM

I agree with Corsair. I never TC any higher than 128. But mostly I like to run arond in RL at TC=1. You miss things and spotted shipe come upon you too fast for you to react properly when running at high TC.

Anyway, to each his/her own.

Merry Christmas everyone and don't eat too much turkey.

Rob

12-23-06, 10:34 PM	#1
IRONxMortlock Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Arrrrggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGH HHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHH!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't get huge amounts of time to play this game so I've been on my first GWX patrol for the past week. It had been going perfectly. I found a huge convoy that I would attack, escape, track, attack, escape... over and over. I'd sunk 9 ships for 62,000 tons. It's the weekend so I just spent 5 hours on my last such run. Final run was nice and I sunk a pyro, large merchant and a medimum merchant when I ran out of torps. Decided to head back to Lorient, the gramophone is playing and the men are in high spirits. About 80km out of the entrance I hit the minus key to take it out of TC (X2048). Hmmm, nothing happened. I start tapping at the key, nope still nothing. I start smashing on the key frantically! NOOOOO!!!!! It won't stop!! SCREECH - "your u-boat was destroyed due to a collision". ^%&^#$#@^$&^#@&$^@#$^!!! It could be worse I guess as the game was saved just before I started my final attack run on the convoy but still, my monitor almost went out the bloody window. ________ Blonde_angel Last edited by IRONxMortlock; 08-14-11 at 02:25 PM.*

12-23-06, 10:39 PM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Yep my mobo is on the way out Every so often the USB keyboard doesnt work ( nor my ethernet ) and have died a couple of times Have a PS2 board in as well tucked away for such events now __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

12-23-06, 10:42 PM	#3
fredbass Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Port Richey, Fl, USA Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What I think happens sometimes, is when you are at High TC and you get near objects or ships, it makes your computer work harder using more memory, and since it's already working pretty hard at 2048, it doesn't take much to get that delay. Of course it happens at slower TC's as well. Every time my computer does that, I like to slow back down to 1x and take a look/listen to see if enemy is nearby. __________________

12-23-06, 10:44 PM	#4
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	when your frame rate drops keys can become unresponsive. Next time just hold the key down instead of tapping it. A bit OT, but you do know that you will never be attacked by planes at such high time compression and you will end up right next to destroyers before your TC automatically drops sometimes because the game does not have time to calculate your, or the destroyers, position often enough. Planes will miss you sometimes at anything over x256. Destroyers will start to appear to close in fog at x1024. above x1024 destroyers will appear too close at any weather. __________________

12-23-06, 11:20 PM	#6
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	start up SH3 with out commander and load the last save you have before you died. this will automaticaly delete the 'dead' save. Dont start a mission tho, just load the save and then exit the game. SH3 commander should have braught you back to life. (I think!) Keep you TC at x256 if you think you are in enemy air space. Set TC to x512 if you know you wont be attacked from the air. Only use x1024 if there is no way you can be attacked from the air and you can see at least 10km (there is no fog). Higer TC will mess up your game. __________________

12-23-06, 11:34 PM	#7
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm starting to believe that the game timeing is set in hard code to do the stock 1024. Setting to go beyond that may be a debug feature where the program "jumps frames". So instead of a slow approach by the enemy that the program does, it may be warping them. Now we hit the super CPU burn that demands holding the keys down to get any responce. At the rate CPUs run today there is really no reason for this lag. I wonder if a debug log is being written in memory but not dumped to a file?:hmm: The Debug help DLL is there, but I've never seen a debug screen from SH3.

12-24-06, 06:30 AM	#8
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Time compression Anybody who uses x1024 and higher isn't a true sub-mariner. It takes patience! You want a speed boat, eh? Well, soon that PT Boat game will be out and you can zoom around at high speed. Myself, the realism is lost at high TC. NO disrespect, mind you. Perhaps it was my own collision that convinced me to stay real and keep a look out. Anyway, Merry Xmas.

12-24-06, 07:18 AM	#9
plastik Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	am i wrong or SH3 will keep you going at high TC for some time before showing up the "WARSHIP SPOTTED!" message??? i have the impression it takes a bit to launch this message and in this small time SH3 does not crank down the time compression, but still keeps up at xwhatever, thereby making you closer to the enemy ship. anybody else get that feeling?? merry christmas!!

12-24-06, 07:22 AM	#10
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Instead of using the minus key, just jump to deck view or control room view and your TC will instantly go down to 1... I personnally never play above 128 except for long transatlantic transfers. __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

12-24-06, 02:05 PM	#13
MRV Frogman Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 296 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	If your Keyboard doesn't react how about using the mouse to to click on that minus-icon at the lower right? Should give you a few more hours to think about a final solution

12-24-06, 04:58 PM	#15
robj250 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Port Hardy, BC, Canada 75 yo with M.S. & C.O.P.D. & heart problems Posts: 1,930 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I agree with Corsair. I never TC any higher than 128. But mostly I like to run arond in RL at TC=1. You miss things and spotted shipe come upon you too fast for you to react properly when running at high TC. Anyway, to each his/her own. Merry Christmas everyone and don't eat too much turkey. Rob