Fatigue setting for SH3 Commander when using GWX?

hocking · 12-19-06, 09:02 AM

Up to this point, I have left the "Use Fatigue Model" unchecked (and therefore have not chosen any of the 5 options from the drop-down list). In this case, I am assuming that SH3 Commander will not change any fatigue settings in GWX. This means that the new GWX fatigue model would be what I experience in my games. Is this correct?

I got a little concerned when I noticed that one of the SH3 Commander Fatigue Models is "Grey Wolves 8 hours". I began to wonder if I have to select the little check box next to "Use Fatigue Model", and then choose this option (the "Grey Wolves 8 hour" option) in order to experience the new GWX fatigue model.

Martin1813 · 12-19-06, 09:20 AM

You're right. Leave "use fatigue model" unchecked.

GW 8 & 24h were for the previous The Grey Wolves 1.0 & 1.1 releases

hocking · 12-19-06, 04:27 PM

Thanks for the reply.

IRONxMortlock · 12-19-06, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin1813

You're right. Leave "use fatigue model" unchecked.

GW 8 & 24h were for the previous The Grey Wolves 1.0 & 1.1 releases

Ah, is that so? I figured I'd have no fatigue if I didn't select a model?
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JScones · 12-20-06, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin1813

You're right. Leave "use fatigue model" unchecked.

Correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin1813

GW 8 & 24h were for the previous The Grey Wolves 1.0 & 1.1 releases

Partially correct.

SH3Cmdr R2.7 contains an updated 8 hour fatigue model which is the same as that in GWX. This model is also backward compatible with GW1.1a (indeed, if you still run GW1.1a then you should select this model).

The 24 hour fatigue model has been removed in R2.7 as it is no longer supported for either GWX or GW1.1a.

Martin1813 · 12-20-06, 06:41 AM

Thanks for the reminder, JScones

(I like this one :

) :rotfl::rotfl:

hocking · 12-20-06, 07:50 AM

Oh, I see. So in the end, I could have did either way. Leave the box unchecked, or checked the box and chosen the "Grey Wolves 8-hour" fatigue from the drop down list. Either of these ways would produce the exact same outcome.

The new fatigue model finally hits it right in my opinion. I have assigned all of my regular sailors (not Officers, or Petty Officers) with one of three qualifications using SH3 Commander R2.7 to help me seperate who is who. I divided them up into three groups, some having five in them, and some only having four (I am running a IIA, so I have a small crew). Anyway, these designations help me keep them seperate so I can run them in shifts easily. One 8-hour shifts will have nothing but Radio-designated sailors assigned to jobs, the next 8-hour shift will only have watchman-designated sailors assigned to jobs, and the final 8-hour shift will have nothing but Machinest-designated sailors assigned to jobs. I then throw in rested Petty Officers, and a few more regular sailors who still have a shift between there next scheduled shift into the mix to fill any voids. I am running pretty efficient probably 80% of the time I would guess.

These qualification designations that you can assign regular seaman in SH3 Commander R2.7 do not really impact that seamans abilities at all, so this is not a cheat as far as I know. But, I don't assign any Officers or Petty Officers with qualification designations from within SH3 Commander, because I think this will increase their abilities within the game and I am not wanting to cheat the system like that. Therefore, I only assign Qualification designations to Officers and Petty Officers from within the game.

Just an idea. Let me know if I am cheating the system in any way and don't know it. Thanks for your answers in this thread.

supposedtobeworking · 12-20-06, 05:14 PM

How about no fatigue. I have never thought that micromanaging and baby-sitting the cew and their schedules was adding an immersive element to the game, but just a nuisance. I currently have no fatigue checked in sh3cmdr 2.7, but is this breaking anything in the game? I have currently had no major problems except two minor bugs (CTD in Navmap and DD blowing itself up i think.)

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-20-06, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by supposedtobeworking

How about no fatigue. I have never thought that micromanaging and baby-sitting the cew and their schedules was adding an immersive element to the game, but just a nuisance. I currently have no fatigue checked in sh3cmdr 2.7, but is this breaking anything in the game? I have currently had no major problems except two minor bugs (CTD in Navmap and DD blowing itself up i think.)

The no fatigue option shouldn't break anything but the progression of fatigue... and any added fatigue advantage to crewmen given medals.

GT182 · 12-20-06, 06:50 PM

STBW, I'm also using no fatigue.. for now at least. I'm seen no problems at all using it in GWX. No CTD in Nav map or any CTDs at all, knock on wood. The biggest issue was being unable to use my keyboard in GWX. But on saving, quitting out of SHIII and then restarting, keyboard is back working in game. I'm about to encounter a large Convoy so I'll check on DDs blowing themselves up.

This is my first convoy contact, actually first enemy contact seeing I'm on my first patrol out of Wilhelmshaven with 2nd Flotilla.

Now this career start date is 08/03/40. This has given me the chance to see the Tirpitz and a different port. In Sept I'll be transferred to Lorient from what I read in the setup. Best benefit was getting a IXB right from the start.

My patrol grid is BF68 so I'll be out all month I hope.

Laffertytig · 12-21-06, 07:58 AM

im having issues with crew fatigue. would i be correct in saying that fatigue shouldnt happen over 64x time compression? im having to change all the crew every few hours when using time compression which is really tedious. any ideas

i have crew fatique unchecked in SH3 commander

fredbass · 12-21-06, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laffertytig

im having issues with crew fatigue. would i be correct in saying that fatigue shouldnt happen over 64x time compression? im having to change all the crew every few hours when using time compression which is really tedious. any ideas

i have crew fatique unchecked in SH3 commander

Look at your other post, we just responded to them.

fredbass · 12-21-06, 08:19 AM

To everyone, please read the Commander documentation and the GWX manual. They will answer most of your questions already.

Laffertytig · 12-21-06, 09:51 AM

ok ive read SH3 commander and gwx manual and there's nothin on this problem. what i would like is to use gwx's fatigue model but the problem is that the crew fatigue at all time compression levels, not just below 64x. not much fun having to change all crew around every 2 or 3 minutes!

the only other mod i have is longer repair times so dont see how that would affect this.

danlisa · 12-21-06, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Laffertytig

the only other mod i have is longer repair times so dont see how that would affect this.

You might have to ask the author of LRT as it is well known that using it will 'break' things in GWX.

Take the LRT out and see if the problem persists.

12-19-06, 09:02 AM	#1
hocking Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 154 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	Fatigue setting for SH3 Commander when using GWX? Up to this point, I have left the "Use Fatigue Model" unchecked (and therefore have not chosen any of the 5 options from the drop-down list). In this case, I am assuming that SH3 Commander will not change any fatigue settings in GWX. This means that the new GWX fatigue model would be what I experience in my games. Is this correct? I got a little concerned when I noticed that one of the SH3 Commander Fatigue Models is "Grey Wolves 8 hours". I began to wonder if I have to select the little check box next to "Use Fatigue Model", and then choose this option (the "Grey Wolves 8 hour" option) in order to experience the new GWX fatigue model.

12-19-06, 09:20 AM	#2
Martin1813 Torpedoman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Caen, France Posts: 111 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	You're right. Leave "use fatigue model" unchecked. GW 8 & 24h were for the previous The Grey Wolves 1.0 & 1.1 releases __________________

12-20-06, 06:41 AM	#6
Martin1813 Torpedoman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Caen, France Posts: 111 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the reminder, JScones (I like this one : ) :rotfl::rotfl: __________________

12-20-06, 05:14 PM	#8
supposedtobeworking XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 436 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	what about... How about no fatigue. I have never thought that micromanaging and baby-sitting the cew and their schedules was adding an immersive element to the game, but just a nuisance. I currently have no fatigue checked in sh3cmdr 2.7, but is this breaking anything in the game? I have currently had no major problems except two minor bugs (CTD in Navmap and DD blowing itself up i think.)

12-20-06, 06:50 PM	#10
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	STBW, I'm also using no fatigue.. for now at least. I'm seen no problems at all using it in GWX. No CTD in Nav map or any CTDs at all, knock on wood. The biggest issue was being unable to use my keyboard in GWX. But on saving, quitting out of SHIII and then restarting, keyboard is back working in game. I'm about to encounter a large Convoy so I'll check on DDs blowing themselves up. This is my first convoy contact, actually first enemy contact seeing I'm on my first patrol out of Wilhelmshaven with 2nd Flotilla. Now this career start date is 08/03/40. This has given me the chance to see the Tirpitz and a different port. In Sept I'll be transferred to Lorient from what I read in the setup. Best benefit was getting a IXB right from the start. My patrol grid is BF68 so I'll be out all month I hope. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

12-19-06, 04:27 PM	#3
hocking Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 154 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the reply.

12-20-06, 07:50 AM	#7
hocking Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 154 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	Oh, I see. So in the end, I could have did either way. Leave the box unchecked, or checked the box and chosen the "Grey Wolves 8-hour" fatigue from the drop down list. Either of these ways would produce the exact same outcome. The new fatigue model finally hits it right in my opinion. I have assigned all of my regular sailors (not Officers, or Petty Officers) with one of three qualifications using SH3 Commander R2.7 to help me seperate who is who. I divided them up into three groups, some having five in them, and some only having four (I am running a IIA, so I have a small crew). Anyway, these designations help me keep them seperate so I can run them in shifts easily. One 8-hour shifts will have nothing but Radio-designated sailors assigned to jobs, the next 8-hour shift will only have watchman-designated sailors assigned to jobs, and the final 8-hour shift will have nothing but Machinest-designated sailors assigned to jobs. I then throw in rested Petty Officers, and a few more regular sailors who still have a shift between there next scheduled shift into the mix to fill any voids. I am running pretty efficient probably 80% of the time I would guess. These qualification designations that you can assign regular seaman in SH3 Commander R2.7 do not really impact that seamans abilities at all, so this is not a cheat as far as I know. But, I don't assign any Officers or Petty Officers with qualification designations from within SH3 Commander, because I think this will increase their abilities within the game and I am not wanting to cheat the system like that. Therefore, I only assign Qualification designations to Officers and Petty Officers from within the game. Just an idea. Let me know if I am cheating the system in any way and don't know it. Thanks for your answers in this thread.

12-21-06, 07:58 AM	#11
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	im having issues with crew fatigue. would i be correct in saying that fatigue shouldnt happen over 64x time compression? im having to change all the crew every few hours when using time compression which is really tedious. any ideas i have crew fatique unchecked in SH3 commander

12-21-06, 08:19 AM	#13
fredbass Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Port Richey, Fl, USA Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	To everyone, please read the Commander documentation and the GWX manual. They will answer most of your questions already. __________________

12-21-06, 09:51 AM	#14
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	ok ive read SH3 commander and gwx manual and there's nothin on this problem. what i would like is to use gwx's fatigue model but the problem is that the crew fatigue at all time compression levels, not just below 64x. not much fun having to change all crew around every 2 or 3 minutes! the only other mod i have is longer repair times so dont see how that would affect this.