Anyone have pictures of U-boat Log Book. - Page 2

Jmack · 12-09-06, 09:24 PM

this one looks very good ...bigboywooly has a few nice links up there

Reece · 12-09-06, 11:17 PM

Thanks, this is good!

Now could someone reprint the following headings in German for setting up the heading/format for a new blank page please?

The site given by Bigboywooly has the Headings translated already, so that saves a job!

They also had a copy of the front cover on the main page, should be able to do something with this, assume this says the date.

Just got to figure out what to do with it now!

JScones · 12-10-06, 12:37 AM

Two things perhaps to consider:

1. The use of Fraktur fonts in *new* KTBs seems to have ceased around mid/end 1941 (after Bormann's January edict). It was replaced with Antiqua fonts.

2. From early 1942 the format apparently became more of a standard essay. The bottom example in the link that BBW posted - http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTBFormat.htm - shows the new style.

One KTB I have dating from 1943 (perhaps the essay style wasn't overly popular with anyone other than Doenitz, LOL!) shows the headings as:

* Datum und Uhrzeit
* Angabe des Ortes, Wind, Wetter, Seegang, Beleuchtung, Sichtigheit [sp?] der Luft, Mondschein USW
* Vorkommnisse

Essentially the same as the image above.

Another, which I think is newer, simply shows the headings as:

* Tag Uhrzeit
* Ort Wetter
* Vorkommnisse

With a vertical running "Heftrand" written in the, surprise surprise, margin.

Both use an Antiqua family font.

I remember researching all this when I first built the KTB feature into SH3Cmdr - it uses a compromise between history and SH3.

Reece · 12-10-06, 01:41 AM

Hi Jaesen, thanks for the translation, I will see if I have, or can get the fonts.
Altimately once the artwork is done I could just post for people to printout to make up a book, but what would be better is finding a log program that has a hot key to bring it up, but I don't know if the hot key will work in the game, may cause too many problems, getting the game to accept keyboard characters to a notepad is out I think. We really need a programmer with plenty of spare time to waste!!:rotfl::rotfl:Sorry about that!
Cripes this weather sucks, haven't heard about the Vic fires today, hope they have it under control!

Anyway any advise you may give I'd appreciate it.
Cheers.

Jmack · 12-10-06, 12:25 PM

actually ... its not a bad idea ... a logbook where you can write your own notes , maybe Sh3 comander can add this feature in future versions

Reece · 12-10-06, 10:48 PM

Jmack, do you have a hires view of the Flugbuc (ch) cover or the "torpedo boat" cover, not for the cover printing but the colour/texture of the cover (including smudges)?
If you do let me know & I will PM you with my email address, Thanks.

don1reed · 12-11-06, 07:42 PM

Best I could come up with, Reece, is this site:

http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTB.htm

its an English copy of Dönitz's KTB. Open up any of the dates and you'll see how the pages of the KTB were arranged. I made a blank duplicate in MS Word that I use for my KTB.

Cheers,

Reece · 12-11-06, 08:57 PM

Hi Don, thanks but Bigboywooly beat you to it!

have almost everything I need except for the cover background color, want to get a hires picture so that I can copy a clear area (without print) & then enlarge it!

I don't want the book to look brand new!!

I may have to PM Jmack if he doesn't check in on this thread!

Cheers.

Jmack · 12-11-06, 09:28 PM

the torpedo boat cover its what you see up there

Reece · 12-11-06, 10:38 PM

I will try using that then or find an old book here with a blank page! maybe if I drop it in mud, wash it off, then let sit in sun to dry!

Now to do something about it!

Thanks all.

IronOutlaw · 01-06-07, 08:27 PM

If you missed my last post, I have a continuous KTB Word template. You just keep typing and the next page appears when you run off the bottom of the page you're on. The headings are the old style using Kleist Fraktur with the content being in Crappy Wehrmacht Typewriter font.

It also includes a title page with a red "Geheimekommandosache" and the title format generally used, including a distribution list.

As is is a continuous template, I have not been able to have the "Heftrand" appearing on alternate sides of the page, and the printer's details are on every page instead of only on what would be the front page of a double sided sheet.

I also have an A4 template with the front and back pages of a sheet correctly laid out so that if they were printed off on A4, double sided, then they could be bound as a book with as many pages as you wanted.

In both templates, the second column is titled "Ort Wetter."

I also have a continuous FTB template, and Torpedo Schlußunterlagen forms in English and German.

If you would like any of them, email Brad at hmsironduke@ozemail.com.au

12-09-06, 09:24 PM	#16
Jmack Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 669 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	this one looks very good ...bigboywooly has a few nice links up there __________________ "victim's ? ... arent we all ? "

12-09-06, 11:17 PM	#17
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,718 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	This is good! Thanks, this is good! Now could someone reprint the following headings in German for setting up the heading/format for a new blank page please? The site given by Bigboywooly has the Headings translated already, so that saves a job! They also had a copy of the front cover on the main page, should be able to do something with this, assume this says the date. Just got to figure out what to do with it now! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

12-10-06, 12:37 AM	#18
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Two things perhaps to consider: 1. The use of Fraktur fonts in *new* KTBs seems to have ceased around mid/end 1941 (after Bormann's January edict). It was replaced with Antiqua fonts. 2. From early 1942 the format apparently became more of a standard essay. The bottom example in the link that BBW posted - http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTBFormat.htm - shows the new style. One KTB I have dating from 1943 (perhaps the essay style wasn't overly popular with anyone other than Doenitz, LOL!) shows the headings as: * Datum und Uhrzeit * Angabe des Ortes, Wind, Wetter, Seegang, Beleuchtung, Sichtigheit [sp?] der Luft, Mondschein USW * Vorkommnisse Essentially the same as the image above. Another, which I think is newer, simply shows the headings as: * Tag Uhrzeit * Ort Wetter * Vorkommnisse With a vertical running "Heftrand" written in the, surprise surprise, margin. Both use an Antiqua family font. I remember researching all this when I first built the KTB feature into SH3Cmdr - it uses a compromise between history and SH3. Last edited by JScones; 12-10-06 at 12:52 AM.

12-10-06, 01:41 AM	#19
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,718 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Hi Jaesen, thanks for the translation, I will see if I have, or can get the fonts. Altimately once the artwork is done I could just post for people to printout to make up a book, but what would be better is finding a log program that has a hot key to bring it up, but I don't know if the hot key will work in the game, may cause too many problems, getting the game to accept keyboard characters to a notepad is out I think. We really need a programmer with plenty of spare time to waste!!:rotfl::rotfl:Sorry about that! Cripes this weather sucks, haven't heard about the Vic fires today, hope they have it under control! Anyway any advise you may give I'd appreciate it. Cheers. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

12-10-06, 12:25 PM	#20
Jmack Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 669 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	actually ... its not a bad idea ... a logbook where you can write your own notes , maybe Sh3 comander can add this feature in future versions __________________ "victim's ? ... arent we all ? "

12-10-06, 10:48 PM	#21
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,718 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Jmack, do you have a hires view of the Flugbuc (ch) cover or the "torpedo boat" cover, not for the cover printing but the colour/texture of the cover (including smudges)? If you do let me know & I will PM you with my email address, Thanks. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

12-11-06, 07:42 PM	#22
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	Best I could come up with, Reece, is this site: http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTB.htm its an English copy of Dönitz's KTB. Open up any of the dates and you'll see how the pages of the KTB were arranged. I made a blank duplicate in MS Word that I use for my KTB. Cheers, __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell

12-11-06, 08:57 PM	#23
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,718 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Hi Don, thanks but Bigboywooly beat you to it! have almost everything I need except for the cover background color, want to get a hires picture so that I can copy a clear area (without print) & then enlarge it! I don't want the book to look brand new!! I may have to PM Jmack if he doesn't check in on this thread! Cheers. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

12-11-06, 09:28 PM	#24
Jmack Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 669 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	the torpedo boat cover its what you see up there __________________ "victim's ? ... arent we all ? "

12-11-06, 10:38 PM	#25
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,718 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I will try using that then or find an old book here with a blank page! maybe if I drop it in mud, wash it off, then let sit in sun to dry! Now to do something about it! Thanks all. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

01-06-07, 08:27 PM	#26
IronOutlaw Loader Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Stewarts River, NSW, Australia Posts: 82 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	If you missed my last post, I have a continuous KTB Word template. You just keep typing and the next page appears when you run off the bottom of the page you're on. The headings are the old style using Kleist Fraktur with the content being in Crappy Wehrmacht Typewriter font. It also includes a title page with a red "Geheimekommandosache" and the title format generally used, including a distribution list. As is is a continuous template, I have not been able to have the "Heftrand" appearing on alternate sides of the page, and the printer's details are on every page instead of only on what would be the front page of a double sided sheet. I also have an A4 template with the front and back pages of a sheet correctly laid out so that if they were printed off on A4, double sided, then they could be bound as a book with as many pages as you wanted. In both templates, the second column is titled "Ort Wetter." I also have a continuous FTB template, and Torpedo Schlußunterlagen forms in English and German. If you would like any of them, email Brad at hmsironduke@ozemail.com.au __________________ Mit Kameradschaftlichen Grüßen Kapitänleutnant Wilhelm Weiß Unterbefehlshaber der 33te U-boot. Flot.