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Using money, weapons or its oil power, Saudi Arabia will intervene to prevent Iranian-backed Shi'ite militias from massacring Iraqi Sunni Muslims once the United States begins pulling out of Iraq, a security adviser to the Saudi government said on Wednesday.
Nawaf Obaid, writing in The Washington Post, said the Saudi leadership was preparing to revise its Iraq policy to deal with the aftermath of a possible U.S. pullout, and is considering options including flooding the oil market to crash prices and thus limit Iran's ability to finance Shi'ite militias in Iraq. "To be sure, Saudi engagement in Iraq carries great risks -- it could spark a regional war. So be it: The consequences of inaction are far worse," Obaid said. The article said the opinions expressed were Obaid's own and not those of the Saudi government. "To turn a blind eye to the massacre of Iraqi Sunnis would be to abandon the principles upon which the kingdom was founded. It would undermine Saudi Arabia's credibility in the Sunni world and would be a capitulation to Iran's militarist actions in the region," he said. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N29311689.htm |
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I can see fighting between Iran and Saudi Arabia if the US pull out, it will go from a civil war to regional conflict in a short space of time. What ever happen in Iraq, it's going to be messy
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Yes...."going" to be messy
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Maybe we should just pull out, let them have their fun and when they've finished we'll go back in and clean up the mess. Both sides kill eachother off and leaves less people concerned with the U.S. around.
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It might be nice to let them fight amongst themselves and pick up the pieces when it's all over, but I don't think that would be a good idea for the global markets and the poor suck who has to fill up there petrol tank and find the price is five time what it cost last week.
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More incentive to find something better than petrol.
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I was thinking this also. But then when I thought about it a bit longer I realized that we would run out of oil while the war raged on in the middle east. Imagine Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran in a shooting war that lasted for ten years. Iran and Iraq fought a limited war for ten years and it was a stalemate. But look at the trouble the Iran Iraq war caused to the oil shipments. Now imagine a new war with more powerful armies, navies and air forces and without the USA in the middle. Sure they will kill themselves but while they are prosecuting this war the flow of oil thought the Persian gulf will slow to a trickle at best. What will the other developed countries do when the oil runs low? Saudi Arabia will have to be able to keep Iranian aircraft and submarines away from their oil fields, refineries, and shipping terminals. And the Straights of Hormuz (SP?) will be nearly impossible to pass. With the Iranians having these new submarines that run on electricity generated by Hydrogen and Oxygen (fuel Cells) the Saudis will have a hard time finding them and destroying them. These new subs scare the heck out of me. Unless they can be put out of action fast the world will run out of oil quickly and that will be a disaster.
Every large country is worried about energy security. That's why China and India are building up their naval forces and building more and more ships and subs. With supersonic cruise missiles and supercavitating torpedoes how can ships transit the Persian Gulf or even the Indian Ocean without worrying about getting sunk. Would you want to be on a slow moving oil tanker that was a sitting duck? The price for oil would skyrocket and provide Iran with even more money. And don't forget that Iran probably already has Nukes or very soon will have them. Korea already has them. The world is a scary place these days. We should have never partially invaded Iraq. We should have secure the country with a several hundred thousands troops if we want the oil. But we went in half cocked and now we have a terrible mess with no way out. Now when Iran has long range missiles that may carry nukes to the USA. Maybe they don't have them just yet. But they may acquire them sooner rather than later. I don't like the idea all so many countries have nuclear weapons that can be directed to our shores. One of the smartest thing this country has done is to build up antimissile missiles and interceptors to try to shield the USA from enemy rockets. We need to speed up that program and make it work now. Quote:
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