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Old 11-18-06, 04:54 PM   #1
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Have you ever noticed, that in the horrendous Return of the Jedi, the opposing fleets have to fly within each other's line of sight to engage? Are you telling me that the Galactic Empire has mastered space flight, light speed travel, clean-burning and efficient power, but lacks OTH targeting? Every battle must be a knife fight?

Also, Star Destroyers carry short-range fighter 'aircraft'. As such, they are 'Star Carriers'. Furthermore, what is the point of building the big black ships? They don't seem to have any enhancement in the capability department. Did someone just say, 'I know, let's built a really big one. It will be like all of the others, but just really, really big'? In fact, all that they seem to do is fly really slow and force the other ships to throw themselves between it and the enemy guns.

Who designed this fleet? The Czar?
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Old 11-18-06, 05:15 PM   #2
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Who designed this fleet? The Czar?
People who know nothing of real combat, nor care to. People who said "Let's see how many cool things we can put on screen!"
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And a Czar?
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Frankly, I gave up watching any Star Wars movie that didn't have a Harrison Ford in it. His smirky grin was what kept that increasingly bloated franchise afloat.
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Nice size comparison of the various movie and TV show starships here:

http://izlin.free.fr/eve/images/compilation.jpg
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I'm not going to go into a rant about Lucas, because it would involve Shaka Zulu and Shinto.

Most of us are fully aware that Lucas started completely blowing it about 1984. The fleet was designed by czar Lucas. Just watch the movie and hush.
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I'm not going to go into a rant about Lucas, because it would involve Shaka Zulu and Shinto.

Most of us are fully aware that Lucas started completely blowing it about 1984. The fleet was designed by czar Lucas. Just watch the movie and hush.
See the chart i posted above. There seems to have been a competition for among the various space shows for the biggest which Lucas has won hands down.
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Honestly, there's been so many other movies since the first Star Wars that have great effects and great stories that the series as a whole really feels unspecial and contrived. Namely with Lord of the Rings, but even the rise of CG animated movies( Nemo, The Incredibles) Lucas should have called it a day with the first three and considered himself lucky. It's sad that he got so caught up playing with CGI and all the other funky technology that he doesn't realize that his last films had more technical flaws than all the amateur fan-films out there put together.
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Have you ever noticed, that in the horrendous Return of the Jedi, the opposing fleets have to fly within each other's line of sight to engage? Are you telling me that the Galactic Empire has mastered space flight, light speed travel, clean-burning and efficient power, but lacks OTH targeting? Every battle must be a knife fight?

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Who designed this fleet? The Czar?
If you think you can do better start writing episodes 7,8 and 9. :p
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