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Old 11-13-06, 02:52 PM   #1
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[quote=AVGWarhawk]Our men and women have done enough. I'm glad you feel it is ok to keep ours over there losing appendages to bombs and grenades. Same as Viet Nam in my view.[quote]

Is that not the definition of cut and run?
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[quote=waste gate][quote=AVGWarhawk]Our men and women have done enough. I'm glad you feel it is ok to keep ours over there losing appendages to bombs and grenades. Same as Viet Nam in my view.
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Is that not the definition of cut and run?
Absolutely....we cut and run. Our young men and women need to come on home. It is time for the Iraqi to figure out his future. We did what was asked....oust a dictator. Do you realise how rich this country will be with sale of oil that will be dispersed amongst the people. Filthy rich by every stretch of the imagination. What I dislike is CNN..constant negative on it. Fox5 usually shows postives about it. Iraq is not as bad off as one would like to believe. People are buying ever electronic gizzmo they can because electricity is free. The money will be flowing and we will be watching closely to make sure another single individual rules it all. But again, it is time for the Iraqi to take control of what is theirs. They have become to complacent.
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Our men and women have done enough. I'm glad you feel it is ok to keep ours over there losing appendages to bombs and grenades. Same as Viet Nam in my view.
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Is that not the definition of cut and run?
Absolutely....we cut and run. Our young men and women need to come on home. It is time for the Iraqi to figure out his future. We did what was asked....oust a dictator. Do you realise how rich this country will be with sale of oil that will be dispersed amongst the people. Filthy rich by every stretch of the imagination. What I dislike is CNN..constant negative on it. Fox5 usually shows postives about it. Iraq is not as bad off as one would like to believe. People are buying ever electronic gizzmo they can because electricity is free. The money will be flowing and we will be watching closely to make sure another single individual rules it all. But again, it is time for the Iraqi to take control of what is theirs. They have become to complacent.

Post WWII Europe didn't recover or return to what they now call normal until many years after the defeat of Germany. The Marshall Plan time line exists until 1967, a full 22 years after VE day. The US has had a military presence in continental Europe to this day.
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The US has had a military presence in continental Europe to this day.
I would very much like to rectify that particular issue.
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Our men and women have done enough. I'm glad you feel it is ok to keep ours over there losing appendages to bombs and grenades. Same as Viet Nam in my view.
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Is that not the definition of cut and run?
Absolutely....we cut and run. Our young men and women need to come on home. It is time for the Iraqi to figure out his future. We did what was asked....oust a dictator. Do you realise how rich this country will be with sale of oil that will be dispersed amongst the people. Filthy rich by every stretch of the imagination. What I dislike is CNN..constant negative on it. Fox5 usually shows postives about it. Iraq is not as bad off as one would like to believe. People are buying ever electronic gizzmo they can because electricity is free. The money will be flowing and we will be watching closely to make sure another single individual rules it all. But again, it is time for the Iraqi to take control of what is theirs. They have become to complacent.
Post WWII Europe didn't recover or return to what they now call normal until many years after the defeat of Germany. The Marshall Plan time line exists until 1967, a full 22 years after VE day. The US has had a military presence in continental Europe to this day.
POST WWII.....unfortunate sir we are not POST Iraqi war. It goes on and will continue as long as we have a large military presence. Besides, POST WWII....we were the victors so we could do what we wanted. Like I stated, we win the battles but not the war. We need the backing of the locals and it is not happening. Right now the locals are delivering bombs in cars/packages. WWII we had the backing of everyone involved. There was no type of terrorist type acts other than the V2 threat and gas that was not used that I have read in any book. As far as military presence in Europe. I do not believe it is absolutely necessary at this juncture. We deploy just as fast from the state as we do in bases outside of the US.
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Our men and women have done enough. I'm glad you feel it is ok to keep ours over there losing appendages to bombs and grenades. Same as Viet Nam in my view.
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Is that not the definition of cut and run?
Absolutely....we cut and run. Our young men and women need to come on home. It is time for the Iraqi to figure out his future. We did what was asked....oust a dictator. Do you realise how rich this country will be with sale of oil that will be dispersed amongst the people. Filthy rich by every stretch of the imagination. What I dislike is CNN..constant negative on it. Fox5 usually shows postives about it. Iraq is not as bad off as one would like to believe. People are buying ever electronic gizzmo they can because electricity is free. The money will be flowing and we will be watching closely to make sure another single individual rules it all. But again, it is time for the Iraqi to take control of what is theirs. They have become to complacent.
Post WWII Europe didn't recover or return to what they now call normal until many years after the defeat of Germany. The Marshall Plan time line exists until 1967, a full 22 years after VE day. The US has had a military presence in continental Europe to this day.
POST WWII.....unfortunate sir we are not POST Iraqi war. It goes on and will continue as long as we have a large military presence. Besides, POST WWII....we were the victors so we could do what we wanted. Like I stated, we win the battles but not the war. We need the backing of the locals and it is not happening. Right now the locals are delivering bombs in cars/packages. WWII we had the backing of everyone involved. There was no type of terrorist type acts other than the V2 threat and gas that was not used that I have read in any book. As far as military presence in Europe. I do not believe it is absolutely necessary at this juncture. We deploy just as fast from the state as we do in bases outside of the US.
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There was no type of terrorist type acts
Not true my friend. Partisan NAZIs did exist and did attack allied troops and installations, both in western and eastern occupied zones. The difference was that for 24 months the populations/insurgents had been heavly bombed and the insurgents didn't have other nation/states contributing to their terrorism.
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