ATI Radeon videocard problems (probably)

Redwine · 11-09-06, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

:hmm:

ATI cards in my opinion are crappy, lots of problems, they fail to much for what I have been reading in the communities I have been before, HunterICX

Agree with you initially i bought an ATI X800 PRO, i was enforced to return it back to store, it was curved as a banano, and make non good contact... they give me another one, an X800 XT PE, it was having troubles from the first day with SH3 and Lock-On, it make lot of big texture triangles and aberrations.

I changed lot of driver versions, from ATI and Omega and no way....

To solve it i was enforced to "Under-Clock" it, and uncheck "controlled by aplication" AA and AF boxes...

It is my last ATI card.... never again.

crazypete · 11-09-06, 12:10 PM

Maybe we need to look at this another way. You said it runs for 10-15 minutes then bombs. That sounds like an overheating video card to me.

I am running a 9800 SE and playing SH3, I ran across a huge convoy in a storm and suddenly all the ship graphics went away. I could still see wakes but no ships. Then it bluescreened.

I rebooted and tried again. After 5 minutes, same thing.

I smelled something, opened my computer to find my video card basically smoking.

DANG

Switched the fan and added a casefan blowing across the top of the ATI and now it hums along just fine.

So try and open your case and put a desktop fan blasting right at the video card and see if it helps.

oh no...I cant make attachments! I have a lovely graphic of a burnt out video card!

Von Taticus · 11-09-06, 04:06 PM

I've run ATI cards (all made by Saphire) for years. (7000 , 9600 9800)
The 9600 SE I had was a bit slow until the major rewrite by ATI of there Catalyst drivers.

I now run an 9800SE and have no probs at all. I run catalyst 6.6 drivers and get a smooth performance (apart from a little slow down when water blurs the periscope)

I am supprised to see ATI being critisized in this thread, I think they are fine. My next card will be an X1900 ... when the wallet allows.

P_Funk · 11-09-06, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazypete

Maybe we need to look at this another way. You said it runs for 10-15 minutes then bombs. That sounds like an overheating video card to me.

I am running a 9800 SE and playing SH3, I ran across a huge convoy in a storm and suddenly all the ship graphics went away. I could still see wakes but no ships. Then it bluescreened.

I rebooted and tried again. After 5 minutes, same thing.

I smelled something, opened my computer to find my video card basically smoking.

DANG

Switched the fan and added a casefan blowing across the top of the ATI and now it hums along just fine.

So try and open your case and put a desktop fan blasting right at the video card and see if it helps.

oh no...I cant make attachments! I have a lovely graphic of a burnt out video card!

I'll have to agree with you. I had a Radeon 9800 Pro made by Sapphire who's fan suddenly stopped working. For an upper end card its amazing that it didn't have a heat sensor or any way of telling me that my fan had cut out. So anyway it ran for a few WEEKS without cooling and then I started to have issues. Graphical glitches and bad rendering and then graphical lock ups where everything crashed. Didn't take me more than a day to raelise what had happened. So got a new fan and it worked alright. However the new problem was that the card had permanent damage. So after a few more months of okay function it finally began to act as if it was overheating again and then died. The stock ATI fan as I later learned is terrible and mine died after only a few months of operation.

I'm currently running an ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 256. It's a pretty decent card for $100 and its tiding me over until I make my new computer. Runs SH3 with GW fine.

But definately this issue sounds like an overheated card. First thing to do is to check to see if the fan is working. A little strip of paper would be able to tell you without the need to harm your fingers.

stabiz · 11-09-06, 06:55 PM

Yeah, my 9600 fan stopped too, but I got beeping sounds from the motherboard warning me. I gave the fan a little push, and it started again. I had to do this once in a while.

After that I left ATI for nVidia.

GT182 · 11-09-06, 08:05 PM

Kristian2, if you decide to go with NVidia take a look at this one, your system will run it just fine. I just got one and it's great. No hiccups in SHIII at all and runs with everything turned up and on. Price is reasonable if you can get it from here....

https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=XFX-68XT25

Deep-Six · 11-09-06, 11:17 PM

Me being a PC tech, I had a problem w/ ATI card. I had a ATI X700XT PRO.

Certain games esp when the screen is black could not see anything at all.

I then decided to buy a NVIDIA 7600GS OC w/ 512megs of ram.

Now the games that I do play, do play as they should.

They are CoD2, SH3, and others.

Now I have to get rid of Navy Dude.

Steeltrap · 11-10-06, 12:11 AM

Well I have a new X 1950 XTX, 512Mb GDDR4 and it works a treat.

I used to use nVidia, had no problems there either.

The cooling point was a good one, but my card has its own fan. My system has 2Gb DDR2 @ 667, so it's capable of handling it all.

I hold off buying until I can afford something mean, then I build it all at once from scratch. Latest rig is the first I've had since 2000 when I bought a P4 866 which was, believe it or not, pretty 'top end' performance at the time.

The Athlon FX-62 dual core with the graphics and RAM above is my latest version, and I'm expecting it to last for some years.

Kristian2 · 11-10-06, 02:41 AM

Thanks again for all your advice.
I will probably go for an Nvidia card this time (to be on the safe side). As of the nvidia card I mentioned earlier I read somewhere that a power supply of 400W was not a bad idea considering its power consumption. Well I have a 350W power supply and a P4 3GHz processor and since I bought them recently I will wait a while for another upgrade and thus have to look for a videocard that is performance wise more or less in balance with my cpu. With a relatively underperforming cpu you don't get a better overall performance, I suppose. I don't know how one determines this, but probably an nvidia card that compares with a 9800 pro or something like that I think. If I can still obtain such a card that is.
An overheating videocard was not the case as with the Omegadrivers the screen goes black within one minute or so (and then the game continues judging on the sound).

11-09-06, 04:06 PM	#3
Von Taticus A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 71 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Say What! I've run ATI cards (all made by Saphire) for years. (7000 , 9600 9800) The 9600 SE I had was a bit slow until the major rewrite by ATI of there Catalyst drivers. I now run an 9800SE and have no probs at all. I run catalyst 6.6 drivers and get a smooth performance (apart from a little slow down when water blurs the periscope) I am supprised to see ATI being critisized in this thread, I think they are fine. My next card will be an X1900 ... when the wallet allows. __________________ (member of the realism police) ... The enemy is pinging us sir ...

11-09-06, 06:55 PM	#5
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Yeah, my 9600 fan stopped too, but I got beeping sounds from the motherboard warning me. I gave the fan a little push, and it started again. I had to do this once in a while. After that I left ATI for nVidia. __________________

11-09-06, 08:05 PM	#6
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Kristian2, if you decide to go with NVidia take a look at this one, your system will run it just fine. I just got one and it's great. No hiccups in SHIII at all and runs with everything turned up and on. Price is reasonable if you can get it from here.... https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=XFX-68XT25 __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

11-10-06, 02:41 AM	#9
Kristian2 Sailor man Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 46 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Thanks again for all your advice. I will probably go for an Nvidia card this time (to be on the safe side). As of the nvidia card I mentioned earlier I read somewhere that a power supply of 400W was not a bad idea considering its power consumption. Well I have a 350W power supply and a P4 3GHz processor and since I bought them recently I will wait a while for another upgrade and thus have to look for a videocard that is performance wise more or less in balance with my cpu. With a relatively underperforming cpu you don't get a better overall performance, I suppose. I don't know how one determines this, but probably an nvidia card that compares with a 9800 pro or something like that I think. If I can still obtain such a card that is. An overheating videocard was not the case as with the Omegadrivers the screen goes black within one minute or so (and then the game continues judging on the sound). Last edited by Kristian2; 11-10-06 at 02:58 AM.

11-09-06, 12:10 PM	#2
crazypete Bosun Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 62 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Maybe we need to look at this another way. You said it runs for 10-15 minutes then bombs. That sounds like an overheating video card to me. I am running a 9800 SE and playing SH3, I ran across a huge convoy in a storm and suddenly all the ship graphics went away. I could still see wakes but no ships. Then it bluescreened. I rebooted and tried again. After 5 minutes, same thing. I smelled something, opened my computer to find my video card basically smoking. DANG Switched the fan and added a casefan blowing across the top of the ATI and now it hums along just fine. So try and open your case and put a desktop fan blasting right at the video card and see if it helps. oh no...I cant make attachments! I have a lovely graphic of a burnt out video card!

11-09-06, 11:17 PM	#7
Deep-Six Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 399 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Me being a PC tech, I had a problem w/ ATI card. I had a ATI X700XT PRO. Certain games esp when the screen is black could not see anything at all. I then decided to buy a NVIDIA 7600GS OC w/ 512megs of ram. Now the games that I do play, do play as they should. They are CoD2, SH3, and others. Now I have to get rid of Navy Dude.

11-10-06, 12:11 AM	#8
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Well I have a new X 1950 XTX, 512Mb GDDR4 and it works a treat. I used to use nVidia, had no problems there either. The cooling point was a good one, but my card has its own fan. My system has 2Gb DDR2 @ 667, so it's capable of handling it all. I hold off buying until I can afford something mean, then I build it all at once from scratch. Latest rig is the first I've had since 2000 when I bought a P4 866 which was, believe it or not, pretty 'top end' performance at the time. The Athlon FX-62 dual core with the graphics and RAM above is my latest version, and I'm expecting it to last for some years.