Flag burning

STEED · 11-02-06, 06:27 AM

I'm listening to the radio at the moment and there talking about about flag burning.

So it's time for a poll.

UPDATE ON THE RADIO

It sounds like most people want this sort of thing banned but no one as yet as stated what these flag burners should get. Hang on one person just said, send them to prison.

The Avon Lady · 11-02-06, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

I'm listening to the radio at the the and there talking about about flag burning.

So it's time for a poll.

It's bad enough someone's already burning flags. Now you wanna burn the polls, too??? :p

TteFAboB · 11-02-06, 07:12 AM

I voted No because if they want to burn my flag I'll just burn theirs in return. Also it's great negative propaganda for themselves, only the idiots who already support whatever flag-burning group will find the ceremony charming. The rest of the people may ignore, despise or reject them.

But if they burn it on public streets then the police should record their faces so the judge can sentence the pyros to weeks of street cleaning with a donkey hat. And we should be allowed to throw rotten tomatoes at them. And then they'll have to clean the tomatoes too.

The Noob · 11-02-06, 07:22 AM

Burning Flags should be legal. It's just a damn piece of Textile, let it burn.

(Of course patroitic people will now go nuts at this statement. :p)

STEED · 11-02-06, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Noob

Burning Flags should be legal. It's just a damn piece of Textile, let it burn.

(Of course patroitic people will now go nuts at this statement. :p)

Take cover Noob don't forget your hard hat.

Moving on I just heard on the radio a bill in America was narrowly defeated in out lawing the burning of flags.

As for my vote I voted yes but to go as far as imprisonment is a little to far, I feel they should be given a weeks sentence in cleaning the streets.

Oberon · 11-02-06, 07:30 AM

Aaah, but burning flags will contribute carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. So burning flags are a source of global warming!

jumpy · 11-02-06, 07:31 AM

I voted NO, because the filth should already have the powers to arrest someone for making a nuiscance of themselves/setting fires in a public place. Demonstrating is one thing, causing a 'danger to the public' by starting a fire should be considered another entirely.

Imagine if I were to go into the middle of town and start a fire in a rubbish bin, or take some wadds of paper/combustible material and then proceed to set it alight... I would imagine the powers that be would be none too pleased. The same attitude should apply to the burning of flags in a public place. The only real difference here seems to be if you do it alone you'll probably get nicked, but if you're in a crowd then you have the safety in numbers to do whatever the hell you want

If flag burning is your thing then go to some armpit type country where that kind of thing is the accepted norm and forte for your average illiterate fannatic. See? Everyone has a niche somewhere to fit in, it just so happens that with any luck that niche is way out in the back of beyond, far away from Blighty.

The Avon Lady · 11-02-06, 08:18 AM

I voted no, for the reasons given by TteFAboB and Jumpy in their posts above.

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Originally Posted by The Noob

(Of course patroitic people will now go nuts at this statement. :p )

I think you'll go nuts first because "patriotic" people (and a accursed bunch we are for being so) here are responding quite calmly and even voting contrary to your expectations.

Oh no! Someone pass Noob the smelling salts.

SUBMAN1 · 11-02-06, 12:22 PM

I'm in the yes crowd. If yo don't like your country and want to burn its flag, its time for you to move.

-S

fredbass · 11-02-06, 12:29 PM

Well I voted yes as well. Every country has its laws. I live in the U.S.A. There are other laws which restrict what I can do and say. Just because you live in America doesn't give someone the right to do or say whatever they want. There still are certain restrictions. This to me is just one more justified restriction that should be in the books, IMO.

Sailor Steve · 11-02-06, 12:29 PM

This old veteran voted no. If we protect the symbol of freedom by taking away the freedom itself, exactly what have we accomplished?

SUBMAN1 · 11-02-06, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

This old veteran voted no. If we protect the symbol of freedom by taking away the freedom itself, exactly what have we accomplished?

You have a point, but I grew up in a world where it was illegal to burn the flag, and we were way more free back then than we are now, so I don't think your point is completely valid. Destroying the symbol of your freedom is to destroy freedom itself. The only real people who want to destroy this symbol and take the action to burn it are the very same people that want to see this country fall, so I vote to ban American flag burning alltogether.

Just my 2 cents.

-S

SkvyWvr · 11-02-06, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I'm in the yes crowd. If yo don't like your country and want to burn its flag, its time for you to move.

-S

Ditto!

fredbass · 11-02-06, 12:38 PM

It's much more than a piece of garment.

The flag represents my country. It's a symbol. We pledge allegiance to it every day. To me, it's just as important as the President and you can't make a public statement threatening the president so to me it's just as important preventing the flag from destruction.

Edited from original version.

August · 11-02-06, 12:41 PM

I voted no. People should have the right to burn a flag in a protest. Of course it'd be nice if I had the right to punch them in the nose for doing it.

View Poll Results: Burning Flags, should it be made illegal in your country?
Yes	20	51.28%
No	19	48.72%
Don't Know	0	0%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

11-02-06, 06:27 AM	#1
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Flag burning I'm listening to the radio at the moment and there talking about about flag burning. So it's time for a poll. UPDATE ON THE RADIO It sounds like most people want this sort of thing banned but no one as yet as stated what these flag burners should get. Hang on one person just said, send them to prison. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! Last edited by STEED; 11-02-06 at 06:40 AM.

11-02-06, 07:12 AM	#3
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I voted No because if they want to burn my flag I'll just burn theirs in return. Also it's great negative propaganda for themselves, only the idiots who already support whatever flag-burning group will find the ceremony charming. The rest of the people may ignore, despise or reject them. But if they burn it on public streets then the police should record their faces so the judge can sentence the pyros to weeks of street cleaning with a donkey hat. And we should be allowed to throw rotten tomatoes at them. And then they'll have to clean the tomatoes too. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

11-02-06, 07:31 AM	#7
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I voted NO, because the filth should already have the powers to arrest someone for making a nuiscance of themselves/setting fires in a public place. Demonstrating is one thing, causing a 'danger to the public' by starting a fire should be considered another entirely. Imagine if I were to go into the middle of town and start a fire in a rubbish bin, or take some wadds of paper/combustible material and then proceed to set it alight... I would imagine the powers that be would be none too pleased. The same attitude should apply to the burning of flags in a public place. The only real difference here seems to be if you do it alone you'll probably get nicked, but if you're in a crowd then you have the safety in numbers to do whatever the hell you want If flag burning is your thing then go to some armpit type country where that kind of thing is the accepted norm and forte for your average illiterate fannatic. See? Everyone has a niche somewhere to fit in, it just so happens that with any luck that niche is way out in the back of beyond, far away from Blighty. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

11-02-06, 12:22 PM	#9
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm in the yes crowd. If yo don't like your country and want to burn its flag, its time for you to move. -S __________________

11-02-06, 07:22 AM	#4
The Noob The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: de_dust2 Posts: 1,417 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Burning Flags should be legal. It's just a damn piece of Textile, let it burn. (Of course patroitic people will now go nuts at this statement. :p)

11-02-06, 07:30 AM	#6
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Aaah, but burning flags will contribute carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. So burning flags are a source of global warming!

11-02-06, 12:29 PM	#10
fredbass Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Port Richey, Fl, USA Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well I voted yes as well. Every country has its laws. I live in the U.S.A. There are other laws which restrict what I can do and say. Just because you live in America doesn't give someone the right to do or say whatever they want. There still are certain restrictions. This to me is just one more justified restriction that should be in the books, IMO. __________________

11-02-06, 12:29 PM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	This old veteran voted no. If we protect the symbol of freedom by taking away the freedom itself, exactly what have we accomplished? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-02-06, 12:38 PM	#14
fredbass Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Port Richey, Fl, USA Posts: 1,066 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's much more than a piece of garment. The flag represents my country. It's a symbol. We pledge allegiance to it every day. To me, it's just as important as the President and you can't make a public statement threatening the president so to me it's just as important preventing the flag from destruction. Edited from original version. __________________ Last edited by fredbass; 11-02-06 at 12:40 PM.

11-02-06, 12:41 PM	#15
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,212 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I voted no. People should have the right to burn a flag in a protest. Of course it'd be nice if I had the right to punch them in the nose for doing it. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.