Flag burning

[STEED]

I'm listening to the radio at the moment and there talking about about flag burning.

So it's time for a poll.


UPDATE ON THE RADIO

It sounds like most people want this sort of thing banned but no one as yet as stated what these flag burners should get. Hang on one person just said, send them to prison.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by STEED

I'm listening to the radio at the the and there talking about about flag burning.

So it's time for a poll.

It's bad enough someone's already burning flags. Now you wanna burn the polls, too??? :p

[TteFAboB]

I voted No because if they want to burn my flag I'll just burn theirs in return. Also it's great negative propaganda for themselves, only the idiots who already support whatever flag-burning group will find the ceremony charming. The rest of the people may ignore, despise or reject them.

But if they burn it on public streets then the police should record their faces so the judge can sentence the pyros to weeks of street cleaning with a donkey hat. And we should be allowed to throw rotten tomatoes at them. And then they'll have to clean the tomatoes too.

[The Noob]

Burning Flags should be legal. It's just a damn piece of Textile, let it burn.

(Of course patroitic people will now go nuts at this statement. :p)

[STEED]

Originally Posted by The Noob

Burning Flags should be legal. It's just a damn piece of Textile, let it burn.

(Of course patroitic people will now go nuts at this statement. :p)

Take cover Noob don't forget your hard hat.



Moving on I just heard on the radio a bill in America was narrowly defeated in out lawing the burning of flags.

As for my vote I voted yes but to go as far as imprisonment is a little to far, I feel they should be given a weeks sentence in cleaning the streets.

[Oberon]

Aaah, but burning flags will contribute carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. So burning flags are a source of global warming!

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Aaah, but burning flags will contribute carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. So burning flags are a source of global warming!

I agree on this point only...pollution is evil...no flag burning.

[jumpy]

As an amusing asside, I wonder what Dr. Zee would have to say about all of this... Celebrating Freedom Day in Futurama lol freedom to do anything, except burn the emblem of freedom day etc etc the irony.
Tickled my funnybone thinking about this thread.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by The Noob

Burning Flags should be legal. It's just a damn piece of Textile, let it burn.

(Of course patroitic people will now go nuts at this statement. :p)

It's the idea the textile represents. It's the sacrifice of many to maintain that idea. It's the security and high standard of living that the idea provides.

Burning the flag of one's country is disgraceful. I equate it with child porn and wife-beating--only a coward and a lowlife would stoop to such behavior.

But, if we are going to allow this in order to say we believe in free speech, fine with me, as long as I can express my free speech by beating the ever-loving crap out of any flag burners I come across!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

It's the idea the textile represents. It's the sacrifice of many to maintain that idea. It's the security and high standard of living that the idea provides.

Burning the flag of one's country is disgraceful. I equate it with child porn and wife-beating--only a coward and a lowlife would stoop to such behavior.

But, if we are going to allow this in order to say we believe in free speech, fine with me, as long as I can express my free speech by beating the ever-loving crap out of any flag burners I come across!

So, you plan on voting yes then because they won't allow you to beat the ever living crap out of them?

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah. And they might be bigger than me

[The Noob]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

It's the idea the textile represents. It's the sacrifice of many to maintain that idea. It's the security and high standard of living that the idea provides.

So what? If someone burns a Che flag, i just say "To hell with you retard" and then move along. It's this persons right to do whatever they want with a flag.

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Burning the flag of one's country is disgraceful.

Or sometimes needed to express that the governement sucks.

First you say:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I equate it with child porn and wife-beating--only a coward and a lowlife would stoop to such behavior.

(I agree that wife-beating and child porn are lowlife stuff, just for the records)

But then you say:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

But, if we are going to allow this in order to say we believe in free speech, fine with me, as long as I can express my free speech by beating the ever-loving crap out of any flag burners I come across!

Am i the only one who feels that this 2 sentences don't mix very well?

With such an violent act, don't you think you are going down to the level of the people you "hate"?

Originally Posted by STEED

Democracy gives you the right to protest but too burn your country's flag is like saying to hell with you and your country and your democracy.

If i burn my countrys flag, why do i say "to hell with me"?

Thats "fredbass patriotic logic" as i call it. According to him i need to leave the planet because i do not stand for pledges of any country, anywhere. Yes, thats right, i don't "belong" to any country.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by The Noob

If i burn my countrys flag, why do i say "to hell with me"?

Everyone has the right to protest but when you burn the flag you have already lost the argument because it's negative and achieves nothing.

[fredbass]

Originally Posted by The Noob

Thats "fredbass patriotic logic" as i call it. According to him i need to leave the planet because i do not stand for pledges of any country, anywhere. Yes, thats right, i don't "belong" to any country.

I'm just saying that it should be a law, at least in my country. Beyond that I really don't care where you go. If all countries were to make it a law against burning the flag, then I guess your stuck whether you like it or not Noob. Besides, you can still rant and rave, moan, bitch and cry as much as you always do.

By the way, did you know that if an immigrant wants to become a citizen of the U.S.A, he or she must must take an oath to the following:

allegiance to the United States Constitution,
renunciation of allegiance to any foreign country or leader to which the immigrant has had previous allegiances to,
defense of the Constitution against enemies "foreign and domestic"
promise to serve in the United States Armed Forces when required by law (either combat or non-combat)
promise to perform civilian duties of "national importance" when required by law

So if a person must take said oath, I don't see anything wrong with making it also illegal to burn the flag.

[bookworm_020]

We had a case of a youth burning an Australian flag flown by the RSL (Returned servies league). He got a suspened sentance, and he then wrote and apology the the RSL.

The RSL then put forward a proposal for him to carry the flag on ANZAC day (the Australia version of veterans day), but had to scap it after fears that the guy could be hurt.

The general view was the guy was an idiot, and the punishment was good enough (he was found guilt of destruction of property). I don't think flag burning sould be banned, but bring your own, don't go destroying other peoples property!