Destroyers-Run or hide? What do YOU do? - Page 3

Der Eisen-Wal · 10-29-06, 05:32 PM

really depends on how lucky I'm feeling. usually I won't waste the torps, because if you miss somehow or it doesn't sink you're going to have a bitch of a time for the next 2 hours trying to evade him. I used to go after lone or duet DDs in 40-41 but then i discovered the tankers and never go back. however during that time I've also raided several harbours and sunk several patrolling destroyers, if killing one will buy me time to escape, by all means. Even managed a stern shot once. After 43 or so I don't wanna mess with them in packs, I'd rather sink the tankers. Intercept convoy, wait for the DD's to pass, then unleash hell. Dive deep and change directions.

_Seth_ · 10-29-06, 05:45 PM

Well, this might sound stupid, but first i check the depth of their keel, lets say its 3,2 meters. I then set a magnetic torp at 4 meters, and the i make sure they notice me (flank speed). the stupid brits then turn against my position at full speed. I plot a collision course towards them, and fire the magnetic torp at about 3500-3600 meters, so it can impact before they start zig-zagging. then i just watch the big boom in the scope.

bookworm_020 · 10-29-06, 05:51 PM

Sometimes I'll tke out the lead destroyer in a convoy, as it's a great diversion. When you sink him (he's often the biggest and baddest of the escorts), the other's race to find me, but by the time they get to where there leader went down, I'm in the middle of the convoy, ripping it apart!

God I love being a U-boat skipper, I get to put the fear of God into Churchill!

Soviet_Sharpshooter · 10-29-06, 06:36 PM

lol run or hide? i surface and take em on with my deck gun!!! The trick is to stay behind them so your only dealing with one of there guns

Oh and playing on 0% realism :rotfl:

WilhelmSchulz. · 10-29-06, 06:53 PM

sometimes I try to sink them sometimes I hide. It depends on my mood.

Oldgamer48 · 10-29-06, 07:03 PM

Even though I'm new at SH3, I'm an old Aces of the Deep warrior. I'm not trying to be smart, just stating a fact: A submarine is stealthy for one reason ... it can dive and hide. On the surface, especially after 1942, radar makes life unbearable.

However, my method is simple, especially when I've encountered a convoy. Make a good approach, fire all forward torps at different ships, and dive deep. Once there, I go silent and play the cat-and-mouse game. Eventually, the DDs have to get back with their convoy (I've actually waited until they've expended all of the depth charges).

Then, I come slowly back up to periscope depth and pick off any ships my initial torpedoes didn't sink. After 1942, I never surface in the vicinity of a convoy, beacuse of the radar. Also, I never stay on the surface if there's an aircraft around, even early in the war. It's not worth the risk.

However, after the escort carriers make their appearance, I will do almost anything to get within range of one of them. Sink this ship, and convoy is back to DD/DE's. Any other boats participating in the attack will be safer, and have more luck against the merchies.

_Seth_ · 10-29-06, 07:43 PM

I overheard Bernard talking about this subject with the machinist (Bernard is active on subsim,you know), and he litteraly shocked me:

Bernard: "Well, theze deztroyers aren't so dangerouze after all. Sometimez they just pass overhead of you, trying to make contact. Since we cant szpeak with them under wasser, they use to send us some zort of code, like "Ping" "Ping".. And when they find out that we dont underztand them, they get angry and drop some boom-boomz at us. I believe that they only need a friend, zo next time they try to ping-ping us, i will blow ballazt und surface, so i can give all of them a nice group-hug.."

10-30-06, 12:07 AM

If Ive got time to avoid them then usually I'll just dive and keep an eye on it with the hydraphone and scope checks , But if it starts to take too much intrest in me or I get jumped by one the lookouts didnt see till to late then I get aggresive, im averaging 1 destroyer a cruise so far

, my best was a V&W that i killed in a surface gun battle 3-4 days ago - I hit it with a torp and it turned and ran , so i surfaced and chased it (I have no idea why i did that) , got the deckgun to aim at weapons and killed all its guns , finished it off with waterline shots into its stern

, sametime i was hitting the destroyer an armed trawler came running to its aid so i shot it up with the deckgun and AA gun as well

stabiz · 10-30-06, 03:13 AM

I am a "it depends"-kaleun. If the bearing is right, I attack. If its wrong I dive like a sunburned penguin and tell the crew to shut up, or else ...

TarJak · 10-30-06, 03:44 AM

If I'm on the surface and they haven't spotted me I go the other way until they disappear over the horizon. If I come across and opportunity I can;t resist I try to get as close as possible and then have a crack at them. If they have seen me I dive and evade.

The Noob · 10-30-06, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marhkimov

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluewings

We are Greywolves and sinking Warships is a matter of pride , and almost a must I should say . Sinking Civilians marchants cripple England 's supply lines ~I agree~ but sending an Enemy warship Cpt. down the bottom while waving at him is nothing short of highly rewarding !!

Yes, we ARE the Greywolves!

Sink da bastards, and don't lose any sleep over it!

M out!

Marhkimov? Thats a name i have not seen in a while.

d@rk51d3 · 10-30-06, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cdre Gibs

Hunt and kill the escorts, then sink the entire convoy at will.

Never fails.

Â«Â« Wolf pack of 1 Â»Â»

Just the way I like it.

Gogs · 10-30-06, 06:11 AM

I leave lone destroyers alone to avoid giving my position away to the allies.

Whether an escort is a target with a convoy depends on the torps remaining. I wouldn't waste one if it could be used on a merchant instead but if taking it out leaves the convoy exposed then ok.

I prefer to play stealthily rather than too gung-ho. I can imagine merchants reporting torpedo attacks without warning and without ever seeing a sub being damn scary and demoralising.

danlisa · 10-30-06, 06:30 AM

During early war ('39 to start '41) I will always attack the destoyer escorts of the convoys. Finish them off and then the convoy is easy pickings.

After mid '41 I will pick my target from the convoy. Make one run and sink maybe 2 merchants. Then overtake the convoy and repeat. I very rarely get noticed by escorts.

flakmonkey · 10-30-06, 07:55 AM

With nygm the DDs nearly always come in pairs so running any hiding is the only option. tried torpedoing one once, spent the next 7hrs being depthcharged by the 2nd destroyer.

10-29-06, 05:45 PM	#32
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Well, this might sound stupid, but first i check the depth of their keel, lets say its 3,2 meters. I then set a magnetic torp at 4 meters, and the i make sure they notice me (flank speed). the stupid brits then turn against my position at full speed. I plot a collision course towards them, and fire the magnetic torp at about 3500-3600 meters, so it can impact before they start zig-zagging. then i just watch the big boom in the scope. __________________

10-29-06, 05:51 PM	#33
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Sometimes I'll tke out the lead destroyer in a convoy, as it's a great diversion. When you sink him (he's often the biggest and baddest of the escorts), the other's race to find me, but by the time they get to where there leader went down, I'm in the middle of the convoy, ripping it apart! God I love being a U-boat skipper, I get to put the fear of God into Churchill! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

10-29-06, 06:36 PM	#34
Soviet_Sharpshooter A-ganger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 72 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	lol run or hide? i surface and take em on with my deck gun!!! The trick is to stay behind them so your only dealing with one of there guns Oh and playing on 0% realism :rotfl: __________________ I died in Scapa Flow

10-29-06, 06:53 PM	#35
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	sometimes I try to sink them sometimes I hide. It depends on my mood. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

10-29-06, 07:43 PM	#37
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	I overheard Bernard talking about this subject with the machinist (Bernard is active on subsim,you know), and he litteraly shocked me: Bernard: "Well, theze deztroyers aren't so dangerouze after all. Sometimez they just pass overhead of you, trying to make contact. Since we cant szpeak with them under wasser, they use to send us some zort of code, like "Ping" "Ping".. And when they find out that we dont underztand them, they get angry and drop some boom-boomz at us. I believe that they only need a friend, zo next time they try to ping-ping us, i will blow ballazt und surface, so i can give all of them a nice group-hug.." __________________

10-29-06, 05:32 PM	#31
Der Eisen-Wal Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 121 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	really depends on how lucky I'm feeling. usually I won't waste the torps, because if you miss somehow or it doesn't sink you're going to have a bitch of a time for the next 2 hours trying to evade him. I used to go after lone or duet DDs in 40-41 but then i discovered the tankers and never go back. however during that time I've also raided several harbours and sunk several patrolling destroyers, if killing one will buy me time to escape, by all means. Even managed a stern shot once. After 43 or so I don't wanna mess with them in packs, I'd rather sink the tankers. Intercept convoy, wait for the DD's to pass, then unleash hell. Dive deep and change directions.

10-29-06, 07:03 PM	#36
Oldgamer48 Bosun Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Illinois, too far from the sea, but close to U-505! Posts: 61 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Even though I'm new at SH3, I'm an old Aces of the Deep warrior. I'm not trying to be smart, just stating a fact: A submarine is stealthy for one reason ... it can dive and hide. On the surface, especially after 1942, radar makes life unbearable. However, my method is simple, especially when I've encountered a convoy. Make a good approach, fire all forward torps at different ships, and dive deep. Once there, I go silent and play the cat-and-mouse game. Eventually, the DDs have to get back with their convoy (I've actually waited until they've expended all of the depth charges). Then, I come slowly back up to periscope depth and pick off any ships my initial torpedoes didn't sink. After 1942, I never surface in the vicinity of a convoy, beacuse of the radar. Also, I never stay on the surface if there's an aircraft around, even early in the war. It's not worth the risk. However, after the escort carriers make their appearance, I will do almost anything to get within range of one of them. Sink this ship, and convoy is back to DD/DE's. Any other boats participating in the attack will be safer, and have more luck against the merchies.

10-30-06, 12:07 AM	#38
darius359au Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If Ive got time to avoid them then usually I'll just dive and keep an eye on it with the hydraphone and scope checks , But if it starts to take too much intrest in me or I get jumped by one the lookouts didnt see till to late then I get aggresive, im averaging 1 destroyer a cruise so far , my best was a V&W that i killed in a surface gun battle 3-4 days ago - I hit it with a torp and it turned and ran , so i surfaced and chased it (I have no idea why i did that) , got the deckgun to aim at weapons and killed all its guns , finished it off with waterline shots into its stern , sametime i was hitting the destroyer an armed trawler came running to its aid so i shot it up with the deckgun and AA gun as well

10-30-06, 03:13 AM	#39
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I am a "it depends"-kaleun. If the bearing is right, I attack. If its wrong I dive like a sunburned penguin and tell the crew to shut up, or else ... __________________

10-30-06, 03:44 AM	#40
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	If I'm on the surface and they haven't spotted me I go the other way until they disappear over the horizon. If I come across and opportunity I can;t resist I try to get as close as possible and then have a crack at them. If they have seen me I dive and evade.

10-30-06, 06:11 AM	#43
Gogs Watch Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 29 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I leave lone destroyers alone to avoid giving my position away to the allies. Whether an escort is a target with a convoy depends on the torps remaining. I wouldn't waste one if it could be used on a merchant instead but if taking it out leaves the convoy exposed then ok. I prefer to play stealthily rather than too gung-ho. I can imagine merchants reporting torpedo attacks without warning and without ever seeing a sub being damn scary and demoralising.

10-30-06, 06:30 AM	#44
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	During early war ('39 to start '41) I will always attack the destoyer escorts of the convoys. Finish them off and then the convoy is easy pickings. After mid '41 I will pick my target from the convoy. Make one run and sink maybe 2 merchants. Then overtake the convoy and repeat. I very rarely get noticed by escorts. __________________

10-30-06, 07:55 AM	#45
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	With nygm the DDs nearly always come in pairs so running any hiding is the only option. tried torpedoing one once, spent the next 7hrs being depthcharged by the 2nd destroyer.