Banned Symbols?

10-22-06, 02:03 PM

I'd like to start a thread as to why some symbols are banned and some are not.
An example in my country would be cross burning. Which represents the Ku Klux Klan and its white supremecy associations. The burning of the flag of the US is not banned, but protected by the first amendment.

Both are burning symbols and reflect a political statement, yet one is illegal and the other isn't. Why?

What other examples are there in the world? The swastika is an obvious one. Muhamed with a bomb in his turbin comes to mind.

Ultimately my question is..........does the banning or making a symbol illegal actually make us more tolerant of other peoples opinion, or does it just drive the 'hate' more underground and cause more trouble and decension?

What is your opinion. Is political correctness driving us apart?

Clear and present danger doesn't apply.

MothBalls · 10-22-06, 02:22 PM

Burn flag burners.

10-22-06, 02:27 PM

OK. I was asking for opinions not pictures. I deliberatly didn't post pix because of their inflamatory (pardon the pun) nature. I am, however, happy to hear your opinion.

10-22-06, 02:37 PM

Article 5 of Germany's constitution, or Basic Law, enshrines the right of freedom of speech and of the press.

"Everyone has the right to freely express and disseminate their opinions orally, in writing or visually and to obtain information from generally accessible sources without hindrance," states paragraph one of the law. "Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting through audiovisual media shall be guaranteed. There shall be no censorship."

But the next paragraph puts certain limits on that freedom, which were deemed necessary when the Basic Law was proclaimed in 1949, just four years after the end of World War II and the downfall of the Nazi dictatorship.

"These rights are subject to limitations embodied in the provisions of general legislation, statutory provisions for the protection of young persons and the citizen's right to personal respect," reads the second paragraph.

German law therefore constrains freedom, said Udo Branahl, a professor of media law at the University of Dortmund.

Gizzmoe · 10-22-06, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

Article 5 of Germany's constitution, or Basic Law, enshrines the right of freedom of speech and of the press.

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But the next paragraph puts certain limits on that freedom

[...]

German law therefore constrains freedom

You think that´s any different in the US or most other countries?

10-22-06, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate

Article 5 of Germany's constitution, or Basic Law, enshrines the right of freedom of speech and of the press.

[...]

But the next paragraph puts certain limits on that freedom

[...]

German law therefore constrains freedom

You think that´s any different in the US or most other countries?

You're off topic. Let me rephrase the debate.

Ultimately my question is..........does the banning or making a symbol illegal actually make us more tolerant of other peoples opinion, or does it just drive the 'hate' more underground and cause more trouble and decension?

What is your opinion. Is political correctness driving us apart?

Sailor Steve · 10-22-06, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MothBalls

Burn flag burners.

Completely disagree. Americans consider the flag to be the symbol of our freedom. If we remove the freedom in order to protect the symbol, what have we accomplished?

10-22-06, 02:03 PM	#1
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Banned Symbols? I'd like to start a thread as to why some symbols are banned and some are not. An example in my country would be cross burning. Which represents the Ku Klux Klan and its white supremecy associations. The burning of the flag of the US is not banned, but protected by the first amendment. Both are burning symbols and reflect a political statement, yet one is illegal and the other isn't. Why? What other examples are there in the world? The swastika is an obvious one. Muhamed with a bomb in his turbin comes to mind. Ultimately my question is..........does the banning or making a symbol illegal actually make us more tolerant of other peoples opinion, or does it just drive the 'hate' more underground and cause more trouble and decension? What is your opinion. Is political correctness driving us apart? Clear and present danger doesn't apply. Last edited by waste gate; 10-22-06 at 02:18 PM.

10-22-06, 02:27 PM	#3
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	OK. I was asking for opinions not pictures. I deliberatly didn't post pix because of their inflamatory (pardon the pun) nature. I am, however, happy to hear your opinion. Last edited by waste gate; 10-22-06 at 02:31 PM.

10-22-06, 02:22 PM	#2
MothBalls Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Burn flag burners.

10-22-06, 02:37 PM	#4
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Article 5 of Germany's constitution, or Basic Law, enshrines the right of freedom of speech and of the press. "Everyone has the right to freely express and disseminate their opinions orally, in writing or visually and to obtain information from generally accessible sources without hindrance," states paragraph one of the law. "Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting through audiovisual media shall be guaranteed. There shall be no censorship." But the next paragraph puts certain limits on that freedom, which were deemed necessary when the Basic Law was proclaimed in 1949, just four years after the end of World War II and the downfall of the Nazi dictatorship. "These rights are subject to limitations embodied in the provisions of general legislation, statutory provisions for the protection of young persons and the citizen's right to personal respect," reads the second paragraph. German law therefore constrains freedom, said Udo Branahl, a professor of media law at the University of Dortmund.