SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-16-06, 12:28 PM   #1
Fish
Eternal Patrol
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,923
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default From our friend the supreme ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources have been reporting since late August that Iran’s political and military leaders have resolved not to wait passively for an American attack but to go instead for a pre-emptive strike against US forces in the Persian Gulf and Iraq, as well as targeting Israel.

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1220

Last edited by Fish; 10-16-06 at 12:51 PM. Reason: spelling
Fish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 12:31 PM   #2
The Avon Lady
Über Mom
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Jerusalem, Israel
Posts: 6,147
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish
DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources have been reporting since late August that Iran’s political and military leaders have resolved not to wait passively for an American attack but to go instead for a pre-emptive strike against US forces in the Persian Gulf and Iraq, as well as targeting Israel.

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1220
While it might be true, I always take Debka with a grain of salt. They have been hit or miss, though many of their hits have been interesting and unexpected. In this case, expectations are already there.
__________________


"Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women."
- Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974
The Avon Lady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 02:03 PM   #3
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish
DEBKAfile and DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources have been reporting since late August that Iran’s political and military leaders have resolved not to wait passively for an American attack but to go instead for a pre-emptive strike against US forces in the Persian Gulf and Iraq, as well as targeting Israel.
If they do this it will remove any of our inhibitions against striking them in the first place and we'll do a lot more than toss some missles at them.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 02:07 PM   #4
Happy Times
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Finland
Posts: 2,950
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0
Default

Im so happy, thank you USA.
__________________
Happy Times is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 09:18 PM   #5
goldorak
Admiral
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,320
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August
If they do this it will remove any of our inhibitions against striking them in the first place and we'll do a lot more than toss some missles at them.
Like what ?
Invade Iran ?
The USA doesn't even have enough ground forces to effectively control Iraq, how on earth are they going to open a second ground theater in Iran ?
Unless of course if the US reenacts obligatory military draft for all citizens (18 years +).
But somehow I don't see this happening.
goldorak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 09:29 PM   #6
ASWnut101
Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 2,021
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0
Default

Perchè non? :hmm: Può essere una buona idea per iniziare la brutta copia.

EDIT: ok, that did NOT come out as I had expected, used a translator and here's what i got:

"Why not? Good idea can be one in order to begin the ugly copy."

oopsies!
__________________


Last edited by ASWnut101; 10-17-06 at 03:17 PM.
ASWnut101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 11:28 PM   #7
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by goldorak
Quote:
Originally Posted by August
If they do this it will remove any of our inhibitions against striking them in the first place and we'll do a lot more than toss some missles at them.
Like what ?
Invade Iran ?
The USA doesn't even have enough ground forces to effectively control Iraq, how on earth are they going to open a second ground theater in Iran ?
Unless of course if the US reenacts obligatory military draft for all citizens (18 years +).
But somehow I don't see this happening.
Believe what you want Goldorak.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 03:03 PM   #8
TteFAboB
Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,247
Downloads: 4
Uploads: 0
Default

If Iran attacks Israel the latter should return the fire on the Oil Fields. Drop radioactive nukes on each one of them and make them unusable for centuries to come.
__________________
"Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand
TteFAboB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 03:23 PM   #9
ASWnut101
Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 2,021
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0
Default

great idea!

maby we should have a pre-emptive strike, just so we get it out of the way!
__________________

ASWnut101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 05:01 PM   #10
Fish
Eternal Patrol
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1,923
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

http://jewishworldreview.com/1006/glick100606.php3

Quote:
By Caroline B. Glick

The clouds of the coming war are converging upon Israel. But the Jewish State's political and military leaders refuse to look up at the darkening sky.

The Russian bear has awakened after fifteen years of hibernation. Under the leadership of former KGB commander President Vladimir Putin, Russia is reasserting its traditional hostility towards Israel.

[...]

Last edited by Gizzmoe; 10-16-06 at 10:56 PM. Reason: See http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=98467
Fish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 05:46 PM   #11
ASWnut101
Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 2,021
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0
Default

holy f**k, something weird is happening.......
__________________

ASWnut101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 06:46 PM   #12
Hylander_1314
Sea Lord
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron
Posts: 1,936
Downloads: 139
Uploads: 0
Default

Can we say WWIII...............
__________________
A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law.
-John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court

---------------------

Hylander_1314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-06, 10:44 PM   #13
TteFAboB
Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,247
Downloads: 4
Uploads: 0
Default

Just nuke the Oil fields!

Iran is a central-planned state and ~50% of the state's budget comes from Oil. What are they going to do without it? Increase taxes massively? Cut expenses massively? Get into massive debt? Or let Iranians start starving to death like North Koreans, instead of following the Nobel Peace Prize winner Muhammad Yunus example?

It's the same with Russia. If you destroy Russian energy (Oil+Gas) fields and make them radioactive for decades to come the Russian state dies, there's nothing but Oil & Gas on the Russian GDP & Budget.

Who needs an "invasion"? All you need are a few B-2 Spirits with long-term radioactive nukes to reach their target, they don't even have to RTB if that's necessary - the volunteer crew can parachute over water or neutral countries.

Only North Korea is safe from this threat and counter-attack since there's nothing left to be destroyed in North Korea that Kim hasn't already destroyed himself.

EDIT: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/...06/cr06129.pdf

^^^ They can destroy Israel and attack the USA, but Israel and the USA can destroy the Iranian state. Is Israel worth your downfall Khamenei? Of course, knowing people's greed and lust for Oil, nobody will dare to destroy them. Pitty, we could use learning to live without it.
__________________
"Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

Last edited by TteFAboB; 10-16-06 at 11:15 PM.
TteFAboB is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.